- cross-posted to:
- gaming@lemmy.zip
- games@sh.itjust.works
- cross-posted to:
- gaming@lemmy.zip
- games@sh.itjust.works
That price was doomed.
I don‘t buy any digital copy of a game for over 45 bucks, doesn‘t matter what it is… I also haven‘t finished DOOM 2016 yet and haven‘t even started Eternal. Not because they‘re bad games or because I don‘t like FPSs, but because I have so much shit to play and so little time.
Competition is fierce and asking 80 bucks when I got the predecessors for less than 5 each is just not happening. Just because games cost more to produce doesn‘t magically make customers have more money and time. It‘ll make release weeks stinkers outside of your GOTYs and makes more people wait or go back to 20+ years worth of other games that aren‘t 80 bucks.
Amen.
$20 is the limit for me. I’m perfectly fine waiting a few years to play the game, if it still exists by that point. If it doesn’t, then I’m glad I didn’t waste my time.
And another plus is that you get to play the games as bug free as they‘ll get AND at higher framerates assuming your hardware improved in the meantime. I certainly wouldn‘t have been able to get the high fidelity DOOM 2016 experience I can get now (at a high framerate) way back when it released.
Downside is that if there‘s any multiplayer component to a game, it‘s probably pretty damn dead years later. But first, I personally don‘t care much about that anymore and second, games bleed the majority of their playerbase within months anyway so it‘s whatever.
Games cost more to produce but there’s more customers than ever
I paid about £3.50 for Doom 2016 last week and around £12 for eternal, having not played a doom game since Doom 3’s launch. I’m enjoying the 2016 one and will look forward to Eternal in a week or 3 once I finish that. what I won’t do is pay £70 for a doom game. I might consider a games for windows sub to get it that way, but that remains to be seen.
Game for windows sub? You mean Gamepass?
That’s the one, sorry, shows how much attention I’ve paid over the years since games for windows was a thing.
Anyone know what the budget was? At 800k sold, that’s roughly $56M, minus merchant fees, plus whatever they get for 2.2M players on Game Pass.
Definitely not bad, though I expect it’ll take a while for them to recoup their budget.
meant to mislead potential players into thinking the game is successful when, in fact, it’s severely underperforming behind the scenes.
Why would a player in a single-player game give a tiny shit about how popular it is? It’s the investor class that cares about that; stop treating their interests as a natural good.
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That term is decades old, it’s fine if you haven’t heard it before but maybe consider that possibility before replying like that and looking like an asshole.
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Then you are either willfully ignorant or a troll, in either case not worth my time.
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everyone is an investor and a shareholder
Are you mad at them for using the term or mad at someone else for coining the term? Or mad at everyone for using a term you had never heard before?
It’s old lunacy. Believe it or not we live in a class based society where the vast majority of the people that actually provide value to society have their labor stolen by leeches that make money by having money and that is what that person means by the investor class.
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Oh, I never thought of it like that.
What a great criticism! You’re obliviously someone who has thought long and hard about this topic
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I guess licking boots gives you a lot of time to think. What’s your favorite flavor of polish?
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Dude/Dudette…
What… what the fuck is your entire account?
You have like a weeks worth of recent comments, and 90% of them you are downvoted to oblivion, just no matter what comm you are, what you are talking about, its just you being insufferable and/or contrarian and/or confidently wrong.
Then further back than that, 2, 3 months, you have some actually informative and useful comments, funny commentary most people liked, and that just keeps going.
Did your account get hacked? Did you suffer a TBI. Get fired, partner broke up with you?
Like I really am not trying to be a dick here, you good man/gal?
You come back after about 2 months of absence and you are now seemingly intentionally just trying to be shitty basically all the time.
Thanks for taking the time to check, blocked them.
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This is Lemmy; everything is politics and it’s really fun and mentally healthy
everything is politics
Literally this
it’s really fun and mentally healthy
Uh oh, someone’s upset their world view is challenged by people pointing out life’s problems!
Sounds healthy…
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It’s a bad game
I just want id to do something else. Doom is fun and all but they’ve kinda perfected it.
So much I don’t know here. Like what an 80.lv is, what their source Alinea Analytics is or what either of their credibility is, why a second source (Ampere) arrived at a PS5 number that deviated from Alinea’s by over 100%, why this didn’t make 80.lv question the veracity of the claim they opted to put in their headline, what sales even mean in the context of Game Pass, why I would care about the potential profitability of a game I don’t care about, why I clicked this post, am writing this comment, or why Microsoft opts to be complicit in Israel’s genocide.
They’re a market research agency, and are well-known and credible enough. See: https://80.lv/contact-us
I care about industry news. Hence the post.
As much as I love the Doom games I’m not really a fan of the $70 price tag. The Doom games are great games but it’s not like they are in my top 5 favorite games or anything like that. I’ll wait for a sale.
Seeing how they screwed over Mick Gordon, the composer for the previous two installments, I’ll vote with my wallet and skip this one. My backlog is big enough as it is anyway.
Same
Doom Eternal is a beautiful album that includes a lovely mini-game.
Edit: a lot of “wooshing” in the replies, but I blame it on myself.
I hope this shows companies that selling their games at 80 Euro is not the way to go.
Yeah no shit. My battlenet launcher wanted $100 for it.
Not sure about hardcore Doom fans but the game looks uninteresting to me specifically. It’s like a polar opposite from Doom 2016 judging by all the videos I’ve seen. Don’t really care about the higher price, I’d get it if I liked it but it really doesn’t click for me.
Ive really not cared about the direction the story has been taking, and im not a huge fan of the newer atmosphere. 2016 felt like it still had horror elements, the demons felt dangerous and doomguy, while incredibly strong, still felt like vulnerable, especially with the custom death scenes. Now he has like this god aura around him, which is cool i guess, but him battling for survival will always be cooler to me than him being like a living god. Also the zero third person cutscenes will always be superior to me, even though i understand why others may not like it.
Would have been the perfect doom game if they didnt make it so every bout of combat ended in a whimper. Even the mech fights dont end gloriously.
On GamePass though, isn’t it? Only people actually buying would be on PS5 and the neversub gang.
It’s also the game they’re giving away with purchases of the 50 series Nvidia cards.
Or Linux 😄 I really liked Game Pass though. Played some great games in there I would either have completely missed or have had to wait years for them to be discounted.
I’m avoiding it because it just doesn’t look that fun. I played the last 2 new dooms and they were good, for console shooters. More PC gamers should have higher standards than this. I don’t want a dumb story about medieval times, collecting dolls, linear maps, cyberdragon mounts, running from arena to arena and then starting repetitive wave fights. Just make a good shooter please!
You basically summed up why i didnt find the reboot and its dlc any good haha
I’m pretty sure that’s exactly how they want it to be. If they were interested in selling games they wouldn’t put them day one on gamepass.
We went through this song and dance with Indiana Jones and Avowed, too. If this was a strategy that lost them money, they’d stop doing it. It turns out they’re just fine with having tens of millions of subscribers that like the idea of getting access to games like these for, in plenty of cases, cheaper.
They can also probably do some accounting hijinks to write off these “losses” while still profiting on it for a long long time. But this is purely speculative on my part, I’m not an accountant so I’m not sure something like that can be done.