The march to Nazism takes another step
Just a quick reminder that the US Supreme Court affirmed the federal government’s right to sterilize citizens in Buck v. Bell and it’s never been walked back.
So that’s cool.
If there is a civil war, I look forward to shitty rulings like Buck vs Bell to be overturned by the good guys. This kind of shit is a black mark on human decency.
You are far more optimistic than I
I am not certain of victory at all, it is just that surrendering in advance has a guaranteed outcome. “Elbows up” has risks, but gives a chance for things to turn out decently.
It seems that Trump and Kennedy are going to lose their balls then. ✂️ A minute of silence. 😔
IQ tests don’t measure intelligence. It measures how good you are at passing an IQ test.
IQ tests don’t measure intelligence.
i feel like it’s possible to do though.
It’s not. All you can do is measure culturally relevant knowledge. That’s what we learned
That’s true. How can we possibly measure logic if logic follows the characteristics of 1900’s classical logic? Does that translate to real intelligence or the ability to get things done? I don’t think so. What if the person just don’t want to get a IQ test? All the more, what if their qualities are not measured by finding out how many balls are inside a cube? I think classical logic doesn’t translate to intelligence.
Every tests measures first and foremost how well one takes that test. There are many IQ tests with varying usefulness.
Nope. IQ measures how Western you are.
We cannot test intelligence. That’s what the creator of the IQ test concluded after the eugenics championed their attempt to do so.
Sorry, but that is only true for a narrow, archaic band of the term IQ. Though I admit that within that narrow interpretation, you’re right. But there have been many tests devised since then to attempt to address those concerns.
Attempt. And fail.
Maybe, in varying degrees, but also some success. Though intelligence itself is tough to pin down in the broader sense, there are some aspects of the measurement that are useful in both clinical settings and in research.
The problem is not so much the test itself, which can be useful sometimes, but the idea that ‘intelligence’ can be fully encapsulated by a single number that is both immutable and discrete.
It’s all about making the cut. Whether you do it or you don’t.
A better idea would be to sterilize people of low empathy.
Andy Warhol allegedly had an IQ around 80-90. But contributed a lot to society.
IQ as a measure of the value of people is bullshit, because it’s an extremely narrow part of our combined intelligence that is measured.
For instance empathy is not part of an IQ test, but is a crucial feature for societies to work well. As societies with higher social intelligence function relatively better.
Something Trump is actively demonstrating right now. Remove empathy from how society works, and the losses are enormous.
Trump and his ilk do not understand that, because they don’t have it.But empathy is a weakness…
Side note: I’m autistic, so I might be approaching this differently from how others do, but is it so uncommon to know that you might be exploited and not care? I’ve put tampons in every shared bathroom I’ve used with any regularity, and sometimes they all get stolen. That sucks, but I can afford it, and maybe the person who took them all can’t. I once stocked a work bathroom with them four times in a month. Maybe one of my coworkers was getting one over on me, maybe all of my coworkers took two or three extra, maybe I saved one coworker’s budget. It doesn’t really matter to me. My buying tampons for people is a “weakness” in the sense that it is an exploitable tendency, but, like, so? I’ve got lots of exploitable tendencies, but I’m okay with that (and in fact, I prefer it).
I guess what I’m asking, is whether or not it’s just the nutso fascists who think exploitability is automatically a negative or whether that’s a common belief (that they’re expanding to include all forms of empathy) and I’m the odd one out? I don’t know if this can really be answered, lol.
I once stocked a work bathroom with them four times in a month.
I have no idea why you would do that? But maybe the reason they are taken is because they think it’s the administration that puts the there.
To the question, it’s obviously not nice to be exploited, and the one doing it is not a nice person. If someone continues to exploit, I definitely wouldn’t support that.
I like having tampons in my shared bathrooms, and I don’t like being asked for a tampon and getting stuck taking part in the following chitchat. I paid a couple of bucks to have an amenity I like and to avoid a conversation I don’t like. I don’t see why I wouldn’t.
I don’t think they thought they were from management, because management would never have done that quietly, but that could be it and I might just be a little cynical.
On an individual level, I don’t let myself get exploited, and I agree that intentional exploiters aren’t good people but I guess I’m talking more about the individual’s interaction with society.
It’s only a weakness in a world where those without it have been allowed the same rights to participate in society as the rest of us, and haven’t been made extinct. I’m not saying that’s what we should do, but I’m saying that’s what it would take to actually fix things.
Of course we’re not going to do it… because we have too much empathy for them. So they win. Again. As always, and until the bitter end of humanity.
Selfishness and greed are basic human tendencies. You can’t breed or cull them out of us. We all do those things every day. The only difference between us and the people you’re talking about is scale.
I don’t think there would be much actual measuring of IQ.
-I’m literally under water right now because of climate change
-Climate change is a hoax, you must have low IQ!
gets executed
So every Trumper should be sterilized? I’ve been saying!
Many people are saying this is a good idea. Many people!!
I think you will find that it applies to “Trump derangement syndrome” people instead
Like they said…
Playing their same game of redefining words isn’t the way to win.
We already argue enough about the definitions of words and phrases.
Oh look.
Eugenics.
I have a feeling he does not mean the ones with the red hats…
you’re assuming intents and that is MEAN
So…the cabinet?
Then who would vote Republican besides the rich? Not enough of you to do it alone.
Shouldn’t he be former? I thought they axed him after he went to a white nationalist rally?
Nazi fucks busting out the calipers?
Do we start with the Whitehouse?
Start with Congress. There is a glut over there.
some kind of sterilization for about 50% of the population would be an improvement.
They did this in India in the 70s! Forced the poors to get snipped
So maga folks. Lol
…soooo Trump voters?
It’s so funny that these maga hogs think they’re the peak of humanity
He can start with himself
Yeah, they don’t want this to happen. It would kill off their base. I guess it wouldn’t matter once they’re in a permanent officialdom, but if you’re trying to run a democracy, that ain’t working.
IQ is determined by test. Guess who will make the test!
They will start with saying that not being white is a clear sign of having a low IQ and start with those people.
Hey wait a second, this isn’t an IQ test, this is a Duck Dynasty trivia game
They already did. Consider “The Bell Curve”. Hugely popular among conservatives, but rather than concluding “hey, maybe the tests are inherently normative of question styles of a single culture, and structural racism leads to opportunity inequity in education”, no, they concluded “black and brown dumb, Asian and white smart”
I’m sure they can exclude more people by including questions like “who was the greatest general in the war of northern aggression”, and “what was that war about” and if your anwers aren’t Lee and states rights, you are clearly unfit to breed.
Stonewall Jackson or maybe Stuart would be the “correct” answer though. But you’re absolutely right, the tests, if it comes to that, will be even more biased than current IQ tests.
