When I say dead users, I mean ones who have been banned, suspended, or deleted (probably after they got banned). I see this so often when browsing posts, and it is so reflective of the problems I have been faced with as well. I’ll be scrolling through a post, and sometimes unironically like 50% of all comments have the stupid little profile picture with its back turned, and when I hover over it it has either been suspended or deleted.
I have been having major issues where I’ve basically been permanently wiped off the platform over some bullshit permaban and can’t get it appealed, and it is just shocking that so many other people are obviously just getting completely swept away by these same bullshit bans. How is Reddit going to survive like this? It’s to the point where any sort of long-term engagement on the site just seems impossible because soon enough the CIA-level, all seeing AI will catch you in its net and then you’re done.
Even if they miraculously change their system to not have the world’s most oppressive ban system, what happens to everyone who’s already been banned? Will a decent percentage of the entire platform just be fucked for life because they were on the platform at the wrong place and the wrong time?
Yah I’ve been perma banned over what I don’t even know, and Reddit won’t even let me make another account, sadly there’s more users and specific subreddits there with relevant posts that I want to engage with but I can’t. I’m hoping this get worse and worse on reddit so that most of the current users jump ship to lemmy
Everything I’ve seen has indicated that it is spiralling pretty hard. It seems like it is just bots and Facebook level users now.
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My pet theory is that Reddit is trying the battleship steel approach. Let me explain: Battleships sunk before the end of WWII are special, in that their steel has never been exposed to the radiation from nuclear blasts. That is important in a series of applications, so there is a market for that kind of steel, and obviously it’s a very limited resource.
Reddit has one of the biggest collections of purely human-generated text that is not domain-specific. That is an incredibly valuable resource, especially now that we know that LLMs hallucinate worse if they are fed LLM-generated content.
I am thinking Reddit is planning to sell that text for the long haul, until changes in language and technology make the content irrelevant. What actually happens on the platform is not important anymore, as long as it doesn’t cause the ire of the powerful.
In fact, at this point, Reddit has a vested incentive in making the Internet worse, which means banning real humans from Reddit, too. Current Reddit content is not valuable, because of course it contains lots of bot generation, so making it visibly worse is a quick way to make the old content more valuable.
Basically, the company plans on getting rich on the backs of yesterday’s you and I.
I just stopped using Reddit after they broke all the good mobile apps. But your comment makes me think that I should log on and run one of those scripts to overwrite my old comments with garbage.
I used this one a couple years ago to poison my comments. Ran it a couple times for good measure.
Good luck finding one that works. I ended up spending weeks deleting every one of my comments that I could find by hand. I couldn’t even go back more than two years or so, but I did the best I could.
i actually tried to post some helpful well thought out SME areas in between my shitposting, i did not want to let reddit have any sort of profit off of it no matter how small so i deleted everything. Took about 20 minutes to set up, then ran on its own for an afternoon
i had no issues deleting comments with this https://github.com/Jelly-Pudding/ereddicator?tab=readme-ov-file#instructions-for-windows-users
thread where some others were discussed https://www.reddit.com/r/apolloapp/comments/145x94v/comment/lokzbwv/
Thank you! I’ll give those a try and see if they can find the stuff I missed.
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The text is public anyone can scrape it. They’ve already used all Reddit’s text in training gpt4.
I’m banned from lemmy.dbzer0.com/c/piracy for being ‘capitalist scum’ because I commented in lemmy.world/c/technology that I didn’t want the Internet Archive archiving my content.
Not quite the same as a Reddit permaban, but authoritarians and orthodoxy enforcers are everywhere.
I’m permabanned for signing in on public WiFi, and since that’s enough to get you kicked off now, I doubt they’ll have many actual human users much longer. It’s like they just want bots, and no one real.
The thing about a bot Silo is that once people catch on the spell is broken, and anyone can make one there’s no moat. If they go to the bar out there well sooner or later find themselves completely irrelevant
Related: https://www.staygrounded.online/p/future-grandmasters-of-the-attention
im permabanned poster redditshitposter58. i first started reading reddit when i was about 12. by 14 i got really obsessed with the concept of “shit posting” and tried to channel it constantly, until my posting process got really bizarre and i would repeat things like “amaze balls” and “this” in my head for hours, and i would get really paranoid, start seeing things in the corners of my eyes etc, basically prodromal schizophrenia. im now on antipsychotics. i always wondered what the kind of “bad” style of reddit humor was all about; i think it’s the unconscious leaking in to the conscious, what jungian theory considered to be the cause of schizophrenic and schizotypal syptoms. i would advise all people who “use” reddit to be careful because that likely means you have a predisposition to a mental illness. peace.
I don’t even remember what the comment was that got me a reddit permaban but it was laughable.
This is a bit funny… Reddit wiped any critical thinking from there few years back and the normies were fine… Then they came for the normies and there is nobody left lol
Or some such thing.
Anyways reddit is not a place for discussion anymore, reddit is where the stupid get their programming
Same way fox news does with “conservative” boomer
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I was banned for talking bad about the current administration, I then deleted my account. Ridiculous stuff.
I toasted mine too. Honestly though, just one day over here has been seemingly more normal than what’s happening on Reddit.
Been here over a year, and yeah this is the place to be now. I love that if I disagree with how an admin runs their instance then I can just fuck off to an entirely different server, or even start my own.
I don’t think greedy pig boy cares, he got his money.
I think you mean a virtual or figurative wasteland. A literal one is a geographical regionwith little or no vegetation or animals.
I had my account of 12 years permabanned a few days ago. Never had an issue ever before the other day.
Wasn’t doing anything out of the ordinary.
Reddit wants each sub to be an echo chamber of repeated comments, they basically want to be 2013 Imgur.
Viewing the post and scrolling is the level of engagement that matters to them. That alone generates revenue. Comments better fall in line
At least that’s my two cents. I’m a Reddit Renegade not an admin
Same here. 12 years and over a quarter million karma. Im not gonna say I was single handedly supporting the site or anything, but how many high karma long term users can they delete before the site is just pure garbage?
I love Lemmy and Im honestly glad I got permabanned from reddit over nothing. Being here reminds me of the early days of my time on Reddit, but a bit more diverse than that version of Reddit ever was. Even though there is still a pretty heavy white/young/tech skew here as there was back in the day. It doesnt feel like that is the only demographic that is here
I know exactly what you mean. I never cared about my karma BUT old timer accounts with a lot of karma (I think I only had like 180k) shows that they’re active. Don’t you want activity?
How many of the people here are from the earlier Reddit era? Maybe that’s why it’s got a different vibe. Reddit’s actually banning the people that have conversations and create content with opinions and arguments. Constructive or not.
I know personally, I feel like a post is engaging when I go in and there are Zero comments. /s
Anyway, fuck you Spez.
Yeah, I was on Reddit way back, like many who have left I was very active, like half a mil karma, bla bla. Didn’t get banned, the API thing was the final straw for me. I’ve been on Lemmy since then and prefer it. Also, whilst I contribute here I spend less of my time on Lemmy, which means I’m reading more books and stuff. Leaving Reddit was absolutely the right decision. I think sunk cost keeps a lot of people there, even though karma isn’t a real thing and the site is turning to shit.
Yeah it does feel like early Reddit here. There’s the occasional asshole but not they hyper combat zone corposhit has become
Yeah they dont care about account age, can keep trying appeals but i never got a human response, just told that i tried to evade a subreddit ban and thats a permanent ban lol, I wish I was actually evading a ban on purpose, id feel better about the ban lol, its too much of a hassle to set up a new account and figure out how to use it on my phone without them tracking me somehow
I didn’t even try to appeal. I just nuked the account and came over here. If every comment needs to be a delusional sunshine and rainbows comment then I’m out.
Evading a ban is their version of resisting arrest lol. Fragile egos over there.
Yeah but its never been about the ppl running the site, its the community that themselves are unaware til it happens to them that I miss lol, only reason I tried appealing to their egos
Yeah it’s crazy how there is absolutely zero nuance in how they dish out bans. There are no warnings, no second chances, if you break any rule, no matter how big or small, they all carry the same exact punishment and that is an immediate and permanent ban for the rest of your life
protip: ‘ban evasion’ is an easy generic category as no one outside of reddit admins can verify it
2 years ago I set up an account from my brand new work laptop with a fresh OS install on a network I’ve never used for reddit, and likely no one has ever used for reddit as it is specifically for a cluster of IoT devices in Martinique.
‘Punching nazis is okay’ got be banned for ban evasion within days of account creation
So here’s the thing, it very much still could be ban evasion. Reddit’s ban systems are able to detect things as minute as writing style and political views, so if you basically wrote in the same way you did before and held the same beliefs, they very likely were able to trace it back to you. It’s utterly insane
Reddit refugee here i never got my reddit account banned I just put the text I quit on its about me and left reddit (trying to find a alternative which was here on lemmy) but maybe one day it will get banned
They banned and nuked all 4 of my accounts ranging from 8yrs to 2yrs old after posting this about 3 weeks ago.
thats such a miniscule reason to ban someone that it makes my silly ban seem reasonable
I pissed off a mod on a large sub and got a ban for “ban evasion” (BS, i only had 1 account)
I later deleted and recreated my account to change the name I chose when I was like 13 (I kept being called a furry) and forgot to block the large sub and accidentally sent a comment when browsing r/allat that point I was like 50/50 with Lemmy so I just hopped all the way over and it’s been about a year since :)
I kept being called a furry
And obviously you’re more of a slimey, eh TriflingToad?
Similar to what happened with me when I first got a site wide ban. I disagreed with a more conservative post, got a subreddit ban, then a while later I commented there on an alt account because I forgot I was banned from there, and both my accounts were permanently nuked. I tried to come back, managed to do so recently on a new device and IP and a new email, and got an account warning for saying an animal abuser should be screamed at, just screamed at, nothing more. Apparently screaming at horrible people is violence now. I voluntarily said goodbye to reddit then.
yeah I have a reddit account that I’ve made like 3 comments and 1 post on but that’s more so I don’t get annoying “you need to be signed in to view this” messages :/
by the way if you need to view reddit on a VPN look up “redlib” it’s a alternative frontend UI that doesn’t block VPNs and is super helpful if I want to look something sketchy up in incognito mode with a VPN
Yeah, I was permabanned from Reddit, just for saying, “stomp Nazis.” After this, I deleted the app entirely. I had issues prior to this. Posts I had carefully written and spent time writing, were deleted for using the word “target,” and the word, “shoot.” Both posts had zilch to do with guns or violence. Saying, “oh, shoot” about a funny autocorrect deleted my post. All this censorship, but somehow right wing trolls were still getting away with being jerks to me?! Wtf! Now I think the app is the most heavily censored thing I have ever encountered. It’s unusable, it’s so censored. What am I supposed to do? Go back and say, “spank Nazis,” instead? At a minimum, it would confuse the message and at worst, I’d get banned for saying that. No, I’m mad at Reddit & I’m never going back.
Free palest… Oh got banned.
