• JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    Hahahaha lmfao. Remember how the majority of them treat the duty to get out and vote to stop an insurrectionist rapist from taking the top office in the land? Not holding my breath mate.

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    6 months ago

    But Lemmy told us that guns were bad,.and at the same time, that basically all leftists and collectivists had weapons and weapons training stashed for secretly protecting themselves if push comes to shove.

    Why would you want the other side to complain at your side about the the particular framework of government they voted for?

    Even more so when they are regarded as basically every negative adjective known to man by the collectivists side?

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      6 months ago

      There is a very real leftist 2A presence, but I don’t see many people supporting someone doming a cop as things stand.

      Now if you think armed rebellion is something that is necessary or likely, maybe you should go find one of these groups and get to training, unless just hiding behind memes is easier?

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        6 months ago

        When somebody says the 2A crowd I think it’s pretty unambiguous who they’re talking about, it’s certainly not anyone on the left.

        I won’t be physically participating in any resistance because I left the US almost 10 years ago and I’m never going back. But if I can help remotely, even if it’s just adding to the chorus of voices begging Americans to wake the fuck up, then I will. What’s your excuse for being a keyboard warrior?

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    The traditional 2A guys are on the side of the tyrants. It was never about resisting tyranny, never about freedom. It was a combination of “I like guns, fuck off,” fear of the world around them, and fantasizing about violence against liberals. The government they want to violently resist is the kind that’s forcing them to surrender their home to immigrants or trying to make their kids gay. They daydreamed about shooting rainbow-haired liberals trying to flounce in and steal their guns, not police and national guard following orders. Tyrants sending immigrants to concentration camps and making “the gays” legal targets for persecution are exactly what those traditional 2A twats want.

    It’s why leftists and LGBTQ+ arming themselves is so important. We cannot count on the 2A Old Guard to protect us, their rhetoric about resisting tyranny and keeping the government in check was a lie. Given the chance they’d gladly join the MAGAstappo instead of lifting a finger to protect actual freedom.

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    6 months ago

    Wasn’t the NRA’s biggest claim for existing was to “resist Tyranny?” We got decades of their bullshit about them being “the last, best hope for freedom” and now, they have fark-all to say about it.

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    6 months ago

    Not one of those gun people, but I still support the 2nd ammendment to some extent (down to ban AR-15s and other “scary-looking” guns simply because they are often used by mall-ninja types who do mass shootings). But I think most responsible gun owners are refusing to give fascists a reason/excuse to accelerate or escalate things (for the record, none of MAGA qualify as “responsible gun owners”). I know things are terrifyingly bad right now, but guns/violence are only going to make the current situation worse faster - at least for now. We do seem to be charging full-speed into a situation where they’ll be helpful and useful, which is terrifying. But with as much as it might feel like an “easy fix” to nip things in the bud now, it’s more likely to give fascism even more power and fuel for their propaganda.

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      6 months ago

      Correct. The administration would fucking LOVE IT if there were some armed liberal violence they could point to and use as a reason to make even bigger moves.

  • boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world
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    I grew up as a regular firearms user in the South. Here’s something we should all be clear on - Conservatives never wanted to be plucky revolutionaries. They don’t have the character for it. They want to be the boot. It’s just in their nature.

    The right wing’s obsession with guns has never been about “defense” or “liberty.” It’s about projecting power. They equate firearm ownership with their imagined ability to project their will onto others. Nothing more.