We aren’t supposed to accept that law enforcement just does as it pleases, ignoring our civil rights and protections and donning standard identification markers so that each officer can be uniquely identified. But this is not all that new.
Most of the time we don’t know we’re being kidnapped by g-goons or the police are ignoring our rights until they’re doing it, and we can only hope we get our day in court to challenge the arrest.
Since the development of DEA, the US courts have been carving out more and more exceptions to the fourth and fifth amendments of the Constitution of the United States, and by even the 90s (with some big thanks to RICO laws / rulings) we are no longer policed by consent, but by force, because there’s no one around with more firepower to stop them.
This was only noticed by minorities, especially in the 1990s with the crackdowns against street gangs and feral youths. At that point we were seeing ur-fascism feature #8 ( The enemy is both too strong and too weak ) where street gangs are described as feral youths who can’t be negotiated with, while the same gang is an international organized-crime syndicate.
Then the 9/11 attacks happened, and the PATRIOT act was signed, and DHS was formed, and we noticed that some Americans, typically Muslim Arab-Americans, but sometimes Persian-Americans, sometimes Sikhs…really anyone who looked too middle-eastern, got disappeared by LGMs (dudes who look like cops but without personal or department identification, sometimes without the yellow POLICE plates), and rendered abroad to black sites to get tortured. But much of the US overlooked it because we were sore about WTC1 and WTC2.
(some of us screamed like Cassandra that this was a big move towards fascist autocracy, but I digress)
When Obama took over FBI was searching hard for terrorists in US borders but couldn’t find many, and had to invent some (Remember Kellyanne Conway’s Bowling Green Massacre? In the actual Bowling Green event no-one died but two refugees were gaslighted by FBI with a budget into doing some inoffensive para-terrorist work, and entrapped into terrorism charges. They’re still serving time.)
By then, our massive surveillance state was in operation and all of the US’ internet traffic went through NSA, and when there were Islamist militants who were thinking about a plot to suicide bomb an American asset, we’d send a predator drone to literally burn his village down: the CIA drone program killed 50 civilians – including grandmothers and children-- for every person-of-interest neutralized. We learned that while video games don’t make kids violent, making real-world warfare like a video game still meant the operator squeezing the trigger got PTSD. US drone programs had a turnover rate about as bad as German einsatzgruppen (death squads who mass executed villages for betrayal or harboring Jews).
So in 2016 when Trump won, Cassandra over here screamed about the Obama administration disabling all the mass intelligence state and surveillance state assets before Trump could get a hold of them.
We got a break, as Trump pissed off CIA and the rest of the intelligence community, so they weren’t talking for a while, but then, somehow, when he had a Heritage Foundation plan and staffers who knew what structures were in place, we elected him President of the United States for a second time. Even despite his insurrection charges (which were stalled until moot).
So yeah, the previous administrations, knowing this was going to be a problem gave the Trump regime is very own SS / Brownshirt secret police (who behave a lot like the Sicherheitsdienst under Reinhard Heydrich) complete with a concentration camp system that is overflowing due to purge quotas.
During the 2020 George Floyd protests, there was a move to abolish ICE who had been hunting undocumented folk and were sent in to brutalize the demonstrations, which only pissed off more Americans, and there was a movement to Abolish ICE (what was always just a paramilitary department to serve the will and interests of the current administration, id est, a secret police).
We are now suffering the consequences of having failed to follow through.
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For Texas at least, under penal code 9.31(a)(1-3) it’s presumed to be reasonable self defense to use force (it specifically does not mention what kind of force, but it is assumed that deadly force is included, I think) against a person who “was committing or attempting to commit aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.”
You’re pretty much already there, bucko. I know it’s a silly image but if you’re only starting to worry now then you got a lot of catching up to do.
That’s the joke though… the picture is from a sketch where one Nazi officer tells another that he’s starting to worry that they’re the baddies, after he realizes that their hats have skulls on them.
I am aware, yes, it’s just I’m completely out of patience for anything that sounds even remotely like the setup for “who could have seen this coming?!”
Like, the alarms have been blaring and nothing is being particularly well hidden and even right now there are way too many people who zero clue what’s going on at all.
Falls asleep … someone sharpies ‘I’M A BIG FAT FASCIST’ across their forehead.
Goes about their life for a month without ever noticing … even when using a mirror.
We did just have the largest protest in the history of the nation… I think some of us are aware.
… I love the protesters… I love the protests… but the mere fact youre coming at me like that meant anything other than we marched in the street on a Saturday tells me youre not taking this seriously.
You have no idea who I am or what I do. Don’t be so arrogant.
If I made you angry, good. Angry people are more likely to act.
Angry people are more likely to act. Yep , that’ how you end up getting punched in the face. Or assassinated.
… who’s being arrogant again?
You just wait until the 2A nuts come out. We all know they hate nothing more than a corrupt government, and the only reason they stockpile guns is to fight the government. Right?
Oops, they actually like tyranny, go figure.
We protect ourselves. I think there are enough examples of how the police and the justice system protects us to reference if you dont believe that yet.
Not nearly enough apparently
The George floydd protests didn’t get nation wide comprehensive justice system reform.
The Iraq war protests didn’t stop the Iraq war.
Occupy wall street didn’t change how the economy functions.
The protests were baked into the Project 2025 plan from its inception. They’ve changed nothing.
Stop being a defeatist.
These people don’t need “The Event” to attempt their stupid fucking plan. It will be 100% fabricated if need be.
I wasn’t even implying they needed it, just that none of the people in power are going to change their minds on anything as a result of the protests.
How long? My guess is that masked unmarked people that don’t even verbally identify themselves will be shot at (and killed?) by someone as they’re walking down the street when law enforcement are attempting to take into custody. My guess is that this shooter will either be killed by the unmarked and masked law enforcement or that person will be arrested and charged.
This is the point when all of the “every day carry” gun folks (and there are a lot of these) will then be faced with the question when they could every use their gun to defend themselves and not be facing charges themselves through no fault of their own.
I think thats when it finally tips enough people into the category to be against trump’s actions.
To avoid armed targets, they have been calling people into court hearings, then they drop charges which allows people to leave. On the way out of the courthouse feds will abduct them.
It’s pretty brilliant. If people become too scared to show up to court, then they get a real judicial warrant which allows them forcibly go into homes.
In a year: “Why are all these people turning their backs on the law and embracing the mob?”
Some truly evil shit.
It’s a little funny that the Dumpies will ask “What rights did ICE ignore?” like due process isn’t the rule of law. Those people are online everyday threatening death and violence to just about anything. Their own internet post history is going to lead to them to the same fate if the coup is successful.
“Due process only applies to citizens” is what they’ll say. Which is bullshit, but that won’t stop them from parroting it.
When you ask them how someone proves their citizenship while being arrested, they’ll just get angry at you.
The recipe has been in play for over a decade, probably more. People can’t stand up if they have nothing to stand on. Everyone is struggling. What the fuck is fascism if you have to concentrate on just surviving. That’s the whole play. They give us just enough to get by so we can live with no time to think. It’s not denial, it’s an orchestrated structure. The system isn’t flawed, it’s working as intended
Add to that several decades of constant far right propaganda disguised as news, and a massive rightward shift of the Overton Window, and you end up with brainwashed citizens willing to cheer this shit on.
Add to that the systematic dismantling of our public education system to ensure that people don’t have the historical and political context to understand the implications of any of it.
They (The Heritage Foundation and their ilk, I guess) really learned a lot of lessons from the Third Reich… This is the culmination of decades of work for these people, and it is working as designed for the most part.
It’s a very difficult trap to escape from. If not impossible.
Resistance comes in more forms than just screaming and punching like a child. You need to educate people and organize them.
You need to educate people
Um, the fascists are cutting the dept of education…
Cutting? You’re behind on the times, friend, they literally put out an executive order to dissolve it.
Well then its done, there is no “united” states, the country is dead.
Yeah fr it’s really discouraging for anybody with an education, a lot of them are just leaving.
Third term? I’d be glad if we came to terms with it by his 6th term.
I am fully prepared for writing off this entire fucking generation.
We’re going to enter dictatorship, tyranny, wars without end, mass waves of poverty, degradation of all our comforts and rights, and techno-feudalism and the average American literally- Does. Not. Care.
This is the way the pendulum swings sometimes. A massive group of people have to literally fucking rot in misery for no reason before their kids grow up and start anew with renewed energy and drive. I know this generation certainly doesn’t have it. Let’s not be fooled by millions of people turning out for celebratory marches on a single weekend. We all know that won’t do anything and it will be a miracle if we can muster up enough group momentum to even get that again.
You may be prepared to give up, but the rest of us aren’t. I hope you find your hope before it’s too late.
going on a half-century and seeing everyone make the same stupid mistakes over and over, seeing generations not only not pass down wisdom but actively abandon the next generation over and over, it makes it hard to have hope.
I respect and support anyone trying to make change, I will continue to do what I can in my situation, but I don’t have expectations anymore. At a point I’ll be retreating to the woods with my loved ones to close out the world and spend more time gardening than scrolling.
Who’s the rest of us? As far as I can tell, there isn’t anybody actually doing shit. Well, maybe one or two people. And a misguided and toothless protest isn’t going to achieve anything, no matter how many people show up. I hope you find your rest of us before it’s too late.
“We did not know, but even if we could what could we do?”
The top 10% with an absolute absurd amount of the wealth are the ones that don’t care. Their miney, therefore their lifestyle seems safe.
The poorest idiots care deeply but think Trump is on their side and will come down to sweep them up right before it gets really miserable cause he needs to break standards of living for all the rich for them to rise up.
What will get people to finally pivot is unknowable. It will be when there is nothing left to lose, probably. If that ever happens without help from the outside, I dunno. It’s not like Germans could Stop Germany from the inside or Japan it’s fascism, or any other group.
But I think it’s wrong to say the average American doesn’t care. The over represented, as always, dont care, which includes out government. The average American agrees deeply we just don’t have much power and all disagree on the solution.The average American agrees deeply we just don’t have much power and all disagree on the solution.
And this has been a manufactured outcome. The average american is a victim of several different competing and collaborating forces who used the KGB playbook to amplify all the worst takes on both sides of every social issue in America. This isn’t wild conspiracy talk, it was exposed, we
havehad a CIA department developed just to combat this tactic. It’s been done in other places to great success as well. It’s part of the recipe for taking down entire nations.What happens is when every social issue, no matter how small or benign or silly, gets amplified on social media to absurd levels of contention and confusion and then boosted to national news outlets, it leaves citizens tired, confused and checked out on literally everything. Nobody cares about making their world better because they don’t know how to take cues from others anymore. So now when the state delivers messages, people default to agreeing with it. It’s why we have people believing the silliest nonsense that the Trump administration pushes out, it’s why people elected him and the rest didn’t even care enough to vote.
This has all been the product of people with the wealth to hire farms of trolls and influencing agents spread through every level of our society in ways both subtle and overt. If you can break a society you can then reshape it into whatever you want.
Yeah, pretty depressing huh?
Hopefully effort becomes cool again.
Hopefully effort becomes cool again.
This is a succinct line about the state of things.
I talk to a lot of young men who are being pulled right towards people like Andrew Tate and his spawn, because they’re confused and angry that they can’t get dates and don’t have friends, meanwhile they don’t talk with any level of passion or pride about anything in their lives, make no effort to take care of themselves or have pride in their clothes, their presentation or their way of speaking, when they’re around other guys it’s the Sarcasm Olympics, and anyone who talks frankly about their feelings gets mocked… and then these guys will go on to scream how they deserve more from others and how they’re victims.
The guys so old, I’m not sure hell make it through this term. He’s clearly not well, but that’s what makes this all crazier. Dems at least knew to kick out their senile old man, how the Republicans are okay with this is wild.
They’re okay with it bc Trump has a cult and many of his cult members are the ones voting the other republicans into office. If they kick out trump, they kick out a bunch of their voter base. Because unfortunately there’s a larger amount of non-cultist republicans that will still vote republican but just not for trump bc “there’s a difference” between the guy doing the bad things and all his best friends “begrudging” helping him do the bad things apparently. Basically they’re delusional about how politics actually work
Sigh
funny how you never hear from the “cold dead hands” guys when tyranny actually happens
that’s what my ex wife called me
that’s what my ex wife called me
Thats strange, she called me “warm lively hands”
“good morning cold dead hands 😘”
You can be certain that a lot of concealed carry leftist will actively respond if something like this happens near/to them.
i hope so, but the people I’m referring to aren’t leftists. they’re the people who oppose any and all regulation and cite being able to defend against tyranny as the ostensible reason.
yet when this shit happens they’re awfully quiet. because they’re full of shit and fucking love tyranny.
I generally agree. I had one neighbor that always voted straight ticket and was a gun nut with a screw loose. Not a fan of tyranny though. I think losing his brother in Vietnam put a fire in his soul.
Lol
Lmao even
Rofls4realz
What may have been the largest organized protests in American history were just a few days back, the president has record-breakingly low approval, even his own party’s talking heads are turning against him. If you’re not going to be satisfied by anything short of armed uprising then at least be brave enough to say as much, but pretending that Americans just don’t see anything wrong and aren’t doing anything is an act of wilful and blatant ignorance.
You know what Hitler did when he had low approval? He made disapproving illegal.
Just wait for it.
I wouldn’t rest on your laurels just yet. You’ll know when you’ve begun to turn the tide because the beast will lash out. The restraint we are seeing right now just means they’ve got a whole lot more in the tank.
You dont have to look further than last October to see this same type of hubris play out. Kamala had momentum and there was 100% a point where if the vote happend then she would have won. For what ever reason they backed off on the “weird” stuff and started rolling out the neocons. The DNC is going to fuck you and you wont even see it coming.
You’re only proving that you don’t actually have any idea what’s going on here, acting like we’re resting on our laurels because there was a big protest. Nobody here is thinking “Yeah we made ourselves heard, job’s done!” Nobody here says the fight is won, but you’re out here acting like nothing is being done at all.
No. Im pushing like I’ve been pushing for the last 8 years. Grow up.
Call your rep - demand Israel pay reparations for attacks.
lol
Are people in denial? It just seems like a commonly understood thing. I’ve talked to straight CNN consuming boomers and even they see it for what it is.
For the record I’m in Canada so maybe it’s just hard to see from the inside.
If they aren’t in the streets they are in denial
denial isn’t something you can “fix” for people. they have to make that decision themselves. and people are very attached to their own “fascism 100% impossible in america” fantasy
For real! People are just so fucking stupid.