• ladicius@lemmy.world
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    Make everyone always wear their safety gear, be it in the car, on the bike, at the workplace. Make them. Always. Do not allow anyone to omit anytime, never ever.

    Anon could be fucking his happy girlfriend of five years right now if he had followed this simple rule.

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      In my country the driver is liable for passengers not wearing their seatbelt. The fine is around €60 per passenger. Most people just pay this back to the driver, but if somebody decides not to, the driver can’t do anything about that.

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        In my country, the driver is fined either way, and the passenger is also fined if they have a license (and thus should know better). Seems to work well enough

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              It looks more like corruption and unnecessary punishments.

              But why even draw the line there? Why not multiply the fines for each person without a seatbelt? 3 People without a seatbelt when the normal fine is €50? Sure lets triple that, and then give each of those 3 people a €150 fine. You know what? Let’s multiply it by every person that has already been fined before.

              Stupid police states and their delusional “keeping you safe by taking away your money and drivers license”. What an absolute dystopian joke.

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                I am the last person to defend cops, and you can easily confirm that by going through my posting history. But seatbelts? Shut the fuck up and put on your fucking seatbelt.

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    I have seen multiple accidents but the ones that stick with me is the truck that hit a sign and ejected the driver and passenger onto the highway were they were run over multiple times.
    And one where a convertible hit a curb for a light rail flipped and smashed into a pole ejecting the passenger who lived but decapitated the driver still in the car.

    Man I would agree that you should always wear your seatbelt because it’s probably safer in the heavy metal box but cars are just absolutely death traps waiting for a bad or distracted moment to kill you.

    Pick a safe car. Tell people you love them and drive safe.

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      There’s no such thing as a safe car. Sure, you can have large crumple zones, but in a full on crash, it’s still a toss of the dice if you make it out alive. You probably didn’t mean it that way, but I despise the car industry selling ever-larger monstrosities under the pentence of safety, when all they do is put other people in danger

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    I’ve been in two crashes where nobody was hurt but probably somebody would have died if they weren’t wearing a seatbelt.

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          There are a handful of situations where the seatbelt kills you. It’s a sad reality, but the seatbelt isn’t a perfect tool.

          The problem is that people don’t understand the idea of harm reduction.

          The odds of getting injured or killed in any severity of accident goes up without a seatbelt. Even slamming your breaks becomes more dangerous if you’re not strapped in. People have been killed in cars, without impact, because they weren’t wearing a seatbelt during some sort of high-velocity maneuver.

          The few cases of strangulation, or getting trapped in a burning vehicle because you couldn’t reach the buckle, are so rare, and there’s no way to measure actual lives saved, people don’t properly calculate the risk.

          But I think some people just don’t like being told what to do and will be obstinate about things like safety requirements…

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            Yeah, a good example is how the injury rate skyrocketed when seatbelts were introduced. Anti-seatbelt people (yes, they exist just like antivaxxers and anti maskers do today) used this to point out that seatbelts were harmful.

            Injury rates skyrocketed because fatality rates plummeted. People who would have died were now only injured. But the anti-seatbelters conveniently ignored that second half of the statistic, and only looked at the increased injury rates.

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          The usual “can’t get out if you’re trapped, the seatbelt causes more injuries in smaller crashes, I knew a guy who got whiplash cause the seatbelt threw him against his seat”

          I’ve tried explaining it multiple times but I quit trying because it’s exhausting 😮‍💨

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      Yup. Even without a passenger fatality, or driver injury for that matter, an accident like that can still screw your brain up. Anon needs all the therapy.

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    Well I don’t understand why people don’t wear seat belts. Isn’t that even illegal? In Germany the driver can be hold accountable for people not wearing the seat belts.

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      Child mentality. They claim the seatbelt is annoying on the neck or big government things. Perhaps, but being an adult is also about doing what is nessesary for you and your family.

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        I’ve even seen people try to say it’s somehow more dangerous because of ridiculous anecdotal experience like “Well I knew this guy who got into a massive roll over accident while drunk and he couldn’t escape because of his seatbelt”. Yeah man the seatbelt was the problem here…

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      In the US, the specifics depend on the state. It’s often not “primary enforcement”, which means you can’t be pulled over specifically for that, but it can be added on when pulled over for something else. In some states, yes, the driver can be held responsible for passengers not having seatbelts on. It may also matter if the passenger is a minor.

      Primary enforcement of seatbelt laws tends to make it more likely for black people to be pulled over. It’s amazing how many good ideas get ruined by racism once you dig into the details.