right now I’m trying a dedicated Jellyfin instance for audio only (bought the lifetime emby subscription before i learned about jellyfin, so video is elsewhere) but having trouble finding a good client that could run on the guts of an old autonomic MMS2A. That device has an analog and digital output, which with the normal OS treated as two separate sources. is that something anyone else has tinkered with? the original plan was to just run a kodi instance with the jellyfin addon, but im not sure if this has the horsepower to run kodi, and certainly not two at once! (4gb of ram max for this beast.
i need it to be remotely controllable, it’d be cool to have easy playlist management/backup that other devices could see, and potentially an android client if possible?
I’ve dabbled with the “____sonic” ecosystem back before i was really good at linux, and struggled a bunch, before giving up without anything real to show for it.
just curious if anyone else has been down this road successfully!
thanks for this community, my scrolling stops INSTANTLY when i see a post from here.
(oh my music server is a truenas SMB share, hosted in a proxmox vm! not opposed to putting a big SSD in this device if local music would make things easier)
Navidrome server, symfonium on android is amazing. I also use maloja and multi-scrobbler to caoture plays from multiple sources and keep a in-house record of my plays.
Symfonium looks amazing except for the part where you need a google play account to use it. It literally has every feature I’ve been looking for.
I’ve found Tempo to be one of the better alternatives you can find on f-droid
I use it and like its UI but it doesn’t properly support offline, you can just download single tracks. By proper offline support I mean something like Audinaut, which unfortunately doesn’t work in new Android versions
I worked around that by making a smart playlist in Navidrome with all my tracks sorted by date added. In Tempo you can then download the entire playlist.
Just use AuroraStore to avoid google play account. You can even pay the Symfonium creator through a hacky workarround and get your full access without Google Play.
That’s an official way you can read it on Symfoniums forum somwhere !
There is a way without Google Play outlined here: https://support.symfonium.app/t/how-can-i-pay-for-symfonium-without-google-play/1290/2
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I’m a very satisfied #jellyfin user. I have my music and movie files shared there. I use different clients: a rpi 5 with kodi and jellydin plugin; an old RPI B with volumio; in android, finamp and also share with dlna.
+1 for Volumio! I didn’t know it can use Jellyfin as a media source. To be fair, I just started using Jellyfin and didn’t want to migrate everything to it until being sure it will stay. So far it’s looking very good though.
Yes. There is a plugin to use jellyfin as a source in volumio. It’s the best.
My problem is that I cannot find a selfhosting solution that has the nuts to spool up 80k+ hi-res, original sourced, flac files that reside on two 10TB drives through my ancient technology. MusicBee is the closest thing I’ve come across, but that is local, and it struggles. I stay around the compound now days so local is ok, but it would be nice to stream out on the back porch without cranking my stereo to 11 so I can hear. I have bluetooth options but range is an issue.
if you can, don’t be afraid to pull some wires! i come from a low-voltage background, and am getting ready to run some cabling for distributed audio.
found some old control4 gear that can be controlled directly from Home Assistant, no control4 processor required!
Hello fellow hass/mass user. Also, what sort of low voltage?
Fire/security alarms? Or access control? (Or both)?
I do both, as well as CCTV.
oh lawd i am glad to meet another out in the wild!
i was fortunate to start with residential alarm and A/V. due to a talent vacuum, leapfrogged to control system programmer/service, which allowed a few forks in the road (service manager, project manager and sales,) before bringing me back to my primary passion in this industry, AV programming and design.
but yeah I’ve installed my fair share of alarm panels, access control, thousands of camera systems.
but most of my shit has been fixing old rich people’s wifi and kids/grandkids AV
Try Ampache! I host 75k files with it.
I use Funkwhale, which I have liked, but my use case is just streaming music through my laptop and listening with headphones. I don’t think there is a client available that will run on your Autonomic streamer.
Funkwhale does have a subsonic API, so you could use a subsonic client, but you mentioned that didn’t quite work before. (Is that what you mean by __sonic? I haven’t actually heard that term.)
Funkwhale is nice, but I think for most people it doesn’t (yet) offer any useful features beyond what Navidrome has, and probably even lacks a few things that Navidrome has. Funkwhale’s main appeal is that you can follow someone’s music library via the fediverse, although there hasn’t really been a lot of use for that so far. Version 2 is coming soon, though, and adds a whole bunch of new fediverse features.
that sounds cool! fediverse shit sounds great!
yeah my memory may be failing me but i seem to recall a bunch of things using an API with sonic in it i was lazy!
Plex and Plexamp. I know the dislike for Plex here, but it works for me and Plexamp is a fantastic piece of kit which, in opinion is worth the lifetime sub alone.
Yep same, Plexamp is the reason I used plex still
Plexamp is mind blowingly good. Great UX. Perfect reliability. No discovery/ads up in your face. Just you listening to your music how you like it. Streaming is ROCK SOLID. Downloads work flawlessly. It just relies on proper metadata in Plex.
I currently host Navidrome, which has an okay web player. On Android I use “Tempo” (though it is unmaintained) to connect to it, and on Linux I use Tauon (though it has very poor playback). I could not find a native Linux client that is not buggy unfortunately, so I’m also on the lookout for better solutions! I’m not familiar with the device you are talking about but every client I tried supports MPRIS, which are the regular media controls that can be used via the
playerctlcommand, so you should be able to hook things up that way.I have just set up Navidrome from the first time and I’m using Feishin as my Linux desktop client. I installed it via nix because it isn’t in the Fedora repos as far as I could tell
I did use Feishin for a while, it’s an excellent music player but unfortunately not a native program. I might switch back to it from Tauon though, as actually playing the whole song before going to the next is a pretty nice upgrade hehe
Can’t recommend symfonium enough it’s really great even better then plexamp
It is, but it requires GPlay to operate and maintain your sub.
I switched to Subtracks when I dumped Google.
It looks really good indeed, and I don’t mind at all to pay for apps (I pay for FairEmail)… however it is very strange for me to add a nonfree app to the list I use every day… everything else is open source.
Have you had problems on android with tempo not continuing playback?
I also run navidrome, and have tried tempo, substreamer, and another client I can’t think of, and any of the clients that stream keep stopping playback after one song when the screen is locked.
I’ve given the client all the permissions for running in the background and using battery that I can and no matter what I do, it’ll just stop after one song.
I’m on a pixel 7a with gOS.
For now I’ve settled on Poweramp with tla selection of the music on my phone since I can’t fit it all in storage. Its been really frustrating.
pixel7a gOS gang rise up!
🤜🤛
Ultrasonic works fine for me, on my pixel9 with Navidrome. Plays in the background just fine as well.
I’ll give ultrasonic a try. Thank you.
Sometimes I get this error you mentioned but I’m usually driving and can’t see what track triggers this behavior but I guess this has something to do with the song format or codec. I usually just hit next and play to keep listening to my songs …
Hmm no, I haven’t had this issue. Tempo works fine for me, it’s been mostly bug-free except for a few oversights:
- search doesn’t work offline
- can’t play AAC files
- can’t skip songs via my Pebble watch
I’m (still) on a Pixel 3a, running LineageOS, in case that matters.
I use navidrome for the streaming and lidarr for downloads. I am not totally thrilled with navidrome as I can not play genres. I want to setup an icecast streaming server with individual “channels” for each genre
MPD (Music Player Daemon) would be perfect for that old Autonomic - super lightweight, runs on practically anythng, and Symfonium is an amazing Android client that supports it natively.
yooooo mopidy is an awesome server to feed MPD and you were correct about MPD being able to run on this device!
I’ve seen this a couple times but haven’t looked into it until now! do you play with this?
mpd has broke me a couple times lol
Nextcloud.
And a subsonic app. There is also another protocol available so you have quite the choice for which you prefer. Currently using Tempo.
I like using rygel currently, just run it by command line and media folders are available over the network. Any device with VLC can see it on the network and play.
Hosted with Jellyfin, for clients I use Symfonium on Android and Feishin on desktop.
E:\mp3
I got an SMB sync app on my phone, stores any new music I’ve found into the network folder and syncs it up on my phone.
Sorted. Wherever I get more tracks from, they’re available on all my devices.
I picked up a Denon DNP-730AE network audio player on ebay and I run Tiny-DLNA on my server where the music files and playlists are stored.
Works great and sounds great.
I just torrent the sht out of it. And put it on a USB stick. And plug it into my car. That’s it.
old school. tried and true. network agnostic. love it!
Navidrome for me. Installed via Yunohost.
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