Welp…
A white South African dude created the American Party
ffs did somebody step on a bug in 2015 and change the whole timeline?
I’m thinking of doing a Ghost Dance to bring Harambe back
I’ll just point out the risk of what I’ll call “Joe Roganing” here. Elon pretends he hates both parties while there’s no election coming up. Then when the election arrives he “makes up his mind” and endorses Republicans. This allows him to 1) attract people fed up with both parties just to hand them to Republicans, and 2) have a credible that that forces Republicans to do his bidding.
Absolutely this and I like that term “Joe Roganing”.
The Let That Sink In party?
The America Party run by a South African.
Popcorn is not enough for this country.
I did nazi that coming.
of all the things to shit on him for this isn’t it. being multi cultural is the only culture we have and almost all of us are immigrants.
If it’s an insult to that crowd then it’s worth rubbing it in, and it certainly is.
I shit him for the name of the Party, not being South African.
White rich South African are devoid of culture just like every other rich profligate. They have no nation, creed, or ideals just an insatiable avarice.
That’s not true, the Musk family have a rich culture and long history of…
*checks notes
Supporting white supremacy and trying to overthrow democracy in several nations.
I fail to see how splitting up the fascists is anything but a good thing. Let them fight.
Yeah, this seems like it may actually be some good news in this endless sea of shit we’ve been in. But the chances of it actually going anywhere are pretty slim.
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Liberals hate musk and won’t vote for his party. Split the stupid vote and watch Dems win unwinnable races. If he pulls that off for 2 election cycles you might even see Republicans go in on ranked choice voting.
I just want to remind anyone thinking that this is a good thing because it will siphon off voters from the Republican Party - Elon Musk is only doing this because Trump cut the EV mandate from the Big Bullshit Bill and didn’t appoint his guy to NASA. No matter what he says about spending or debt ceilings, he doesn’t care about any of it and was in the loop the entire time that legislation was being crafted. He’s still only in this for himself, just as he was when he gleefully threw a Nazi salute on stage thinking he just got everything he could ever want when he bought the president his office.
As much as I fucking hate Musk, he does understand two things:
- EVs will never be the mainstream without federal and state project support
- Funneling money from the government to billionaires is the worst thing for an economy
What I find fucking mind-blowing is that this idiot is selling a shoddy EV and solar product at premium costs to other idiots, but very much aligned with Democrats on the two points above. Not only did he back the wrong horse, he straight up accidentally got on the wrong horse, and rode it threw towns away from where he was living very comfortably.
Now this fucking moron needs to invent new ways to make Tesla appealing to the “normies” because nobody is buying his bullshit stalling tactics or premium pricing for sub-par products.
I’ve got my popcorn ready, but the siphoning of votes away from Trump is just the butter on top.
Not sure I agree with point #2 - I’d be willing to bet he would love to funnel some of that sweet tax money into his own pocket, but he doesn’t want it in the form of tax breaks for income earners, he wants it in the form of EV subsidies for Tesla, which Trump denied him by cutting the EV tax incentive from the spending bill. I don’t think he even acknowledges that tax breaks for billionaires are bad for the economy, just that the big bullshit bill is bad for him specifically.
On everything else, though, I agree wholeheartedly. His brand is toxic now, and without being able to sell a sub-par product at dirt-cheap prices, he’s going to get a heavy dose of reality when consumers reject his rolling coffins in favor of cheaper alternatives.
If course you don’t. That’s why you side with Trump. The fact that “trickle down economics” has been disproven time and time again means nothing to you folks.
Huh? Did you reply to the wrong person? Because I don’t side with Trump. Check my comment history.
I dont see how you can draw that conclusion for item 2. He claims to care about the deficit, not funelling money to billionaires. Belive me, he would have you living under a bridge eating gruel before he would touch anything that affects his wealth.
- EVs will never be the mainstream without federal and state project support
in not sure about that… imo EVs would be relatively comparable if ICE vehicles and oil didn’t have massive subsidies at every stage from governments… more if negative externalities were properly accounted for
or maybe not: in australia we have a fuel excise and EV credit and they’re still pretty expensive relative to ICE
EV’s only become popular when cheaper. It’s a fact.
Not everyone lives in areas where solar installs at ean option. The offset doesn’t make sense when you go north or south of the globe where the sun don’t shine.
I know you meant internal combustion engine, but it gave me a pause because I thought you were talking about ice agents
i absolutely agree and considered using a different phrase but it’s been the phrase to use for fossil fuel powered cars for so long i decided they don’t get to exclusively steal it
I think total cost of ownership is lower for EVs for people that have reasonable electricity rates and can charge at home, but that’s a tougher sell and most people aren’t even sure that it will work out unless they try it.
He can be in it for himself, and it can still be a good thing for us
Sure, that’s fine, I just don’t want people to lose sight of the bigger picture here. Musk is not an altruist. He’s not the good guy all of a sudden. He didn’t grow a conscience after falling out with Trump.
If this political party ever gets off the ground, which it probably won’t, Musk will always have a controlling interest in it. He will never ever let the party move away from enabling and enacting his agenda, and his alone. He doesn’t give a single shit or a wipe about helping Americans. He wants to protect his fortune by taking control of the government apparatus to end regulations or investigations that impede the companies he is in charge of. That’s it.
I certainly hope that Democrats will see this for the nakedly transparent political maneuver that it is, and not get swept up in the idea of a 3rd party founded and controlled by a billionaire will bring any kind of meaningful change to the system. And I believe they will - we rejected Bloomberg and Steyer in 2020 because they were out-of-touch billionaires who tried to buy their way into the party, and I think that Democrats are not so easily fooled by the obvious bad faith rich cunts who try to buy their way into the public zeitgeist. I just worry that people will see this move by Musk as “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” and shift closer to his values as a result. He might be the enemy of your enemy, but he’s still an an enemy as far as I’m concerned.
This isn’t what anyone is celebrating.
They don’t think for a second that Musk will do anything positive.
What they’re hoping for is republicans to split somewhere near the middle, some in support of MAGAts and some in support of Musk, which could lead to more people voting for a democrat than a republican. Votes that would have gone toward a MAGAt will go to Musk. That is the prayer.
Nobody who actually cares about others thinks Musk is the good guy. This is strictly an evil vs. evil situation.
Cool. Let the douches be split between who is more “maga” (baby talk) than the other and split all the worst people into an ineffective nothingburger when it comes to the ballot box.
I’m so tired of the various factions of the left pitting themselves against each other (and letting elitists/Russian and Chinese troll farms do this to them, too).
About time to have some extreme division on the wingnuts.
I’m sure Tesla shareholders are happy to hear he’s picked up another side project.
Don’t you remember? He’s a super genius!
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Who do you think you are, an oligarch?
I am but a simple man looking to profit off the vanity of a complete moron with more money than God.
knowing musk ox, the party name will spell something juvenile
C onservatives U nited as N ationalist T rolls
Not enough X’s in that name.
American History X party
There we go
Bring Apartheid to America. BAA.
Wow this might just turn Elon Musk into a millionaire.
What a stupid name for it
I’m just shocked it’s not the X Party.
I was rooting for Lemon Party.
How many weeks before he gets bored and abandons it when things don’t immediately work, just like everything else in his useless life?
unlike rockets or cars, political party success in America is measured in dollars
He already bought himself an entire department with no oversight but got bored of it after a few months.
In 1962, Congress created the role of “special government employee,” which allows the executive branch, the legislative branch and independent federal agencies to bring on employees for specific roles on a temporary basis.
SGEs are limited to working for the government for no more than 130 days out of a 365-day period, though they can work multiple years, and they can either be paid or unpaid. NPR has reported that Musk is not being paid for his work with DOGE.
If you’re just going to copy and paste from an NPR article, you might as well provide a link while you’re at it.
He didn’t make it to 130 days. He never mentioned that. Also, the law does not constrain this administration. He got bored when he didn’t immediately become loved and gave up like the little baby he is. Stop giving these bumbling oligarchs the benefit of the doubt and a veneer of legitimacy. You are an active part of the problem when you do.
The funniest thing about stuff like this is that there are already a hundred political parties in the US. Every time someone says “we need a third party,” it reminds me of that xkcd comic about standards and protocols.
When people say that they want a third part I doubt they mean it literally, as in they believe there are literally only two parties, but rather I suspect they mean that they want a third party which is large and influencial.
Sort of. They usually mean it literally, but it’s rooted in the misunderstanding of the political system that most folks have. And I don’t blame them for this, I just find the grandiosity amusing.
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Exactly!
That is a ridiculous comparison. More political parties are a good thing.
They would be, if the political and electoral system supported it.
Which is obviously not the case in the US.
Do you think there’s any chance that Musk can break whatever is formally boxing out other parties? It seems like just by being who he is right now in history, he could break things.
We need to hope he breaks the current norm in a way that doesn’t put him in power, and opens things up for proper multi-party elections in the future. That’s a lot to hope for though, I guess.
When I think about this, I can imagine Musk fans telling tales of his 4D chess moves and how his plan all along has been to overhaul and improve elections. Or some other bullshit.
Outsourcing your revolution to the billionaire oligarch has to be one of the takes of all time.
Me: Can we have Lenin?
Mom: We have Lenin at home.
Lenin at home:
I think the opportunity is better this time around.
Democrats and Republicans secured a two party system and locked everyone else out because of a few things:
- Finances and resources.
- Media coverage. During debates, they had secret handshake deals to only argue against each other, which forces media to only cover them.
Musk got resources. He spent a lot to get Orange Man in power. And TV and news is already lower on the trust scale, as the population leans towards social media.
There’s a few other issues like local/state elections that won’t be friendly to non-Democrat/non-republican parties.
Of course, this is all a pipe dream and like the libertarian party, it’ll quickly get thrown aside and the politicians will fold into one of the two parties.
Not until the US election system is changed. Until then they are just irrelevant distractions.
The Country Under Not Trump party
