Em dashes and emojis

    • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
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      5 months ago

      As someone who used to do shit like this all the time (perma-blocking people for perceived disrespect), it’s not a great way to live.

      Yeah they made a shitty situation worse, but being a coward doesn’t make you a bad person. Besides, they’re almost certainly a kid.

    • VeryFrugal@sh.itjust.works
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      5 months ago

      I figured out that this works as a guilt for a lot of people who were abused in a relationship.

      Call them, text them, or even better, ghost their ass if they ever toxic. You’re more than fine with that.

    • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      I never got what’s the deal with that. Sincerely. If there’s a break up, what’s the difference doing it by text, phone or in person.

      My gut says me that people may prefer in person because they saw a better chance of avoid the breakup that way, but I’m not sure.

      Other than that if it’s over it’s over, I don’t see the media in which the message is deliver. For all I care as if it’s via smoke signals.

      • Flickerby@lemmy.zip
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        5 months ago

        It’s about respect for the other person, as I see it. You wouldn’t be a little miffed if your wife of 10 years sent you a “k thx bai (link to divorce papers)” instead of talking in person?

        • kofe@lemmy.world
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          Context is everything. Yeah, your wife of 10 years deserves the face to face, more than once. A dude I dated for a few months that showed no emotional intelligence specifically told me he’d prefer a text. I obliged when I realized it wasn’t going anywhere and I didn’t want to keep up a casual relationship. He then asked to talk in person, though, and I again obliged.

      • Deme@sopuli.xyz
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        5 months ago

        I think its basic courtesy to put even a little effort to something as important as a breakup. Not doing it face to face or at least in a call removes the interaction completely. It’s taking the easiest possible path in a situation that will certainly affect the other person in a significant manner. It’s cold. Using a LLM for said text like in the meme is even lower effor and leaves the recipient feeling utterly worthless. Basically the same thing as getting fired via email.

  • lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    For me, it would take some of the sting out of the break-up.

    I would think to myself, “damn, how did I not realize that I was dating a lazy moron?”

  • taiyang@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Isn’t “It’s not you, it’s me” the ultimate example of parallel sentence structure? Lol

    But let’s be real, it’s more like…

    💔 Here’s three reasons reasons we’re breaking up:

    • Our personalities don’t match-- according to (made up citation) people with you type are toxic.
    • Your idiology doesn’t match mine-- you don’t believe in White South African genocide.
    • We aren’t compatible-- our personalities aren’t complimentary.

    And so on. Lol

  • SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one
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    5 months ago

    I long for the day when we stop giving a fuck about how many pixels a dash has.

    Jesus fucking christ it is so insufferable how long this goes on for.

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    5 months ago

    Great catch! That’s a really interesting observation — but no, using em dashes and emojis alone is not a reliable way to tell AI text from human-written text.

    Here’s why:

    1️⃣ Humans and AI both use em dashes and emojis

    Skilled human writers often use em dashes for style, tone, or emphasis (like in essays, journalism, or fiction).

    Modern AI models, including ChatGPT, are trained on vast amounts of text — including texts that use em dashes extensively — so they use them naturally.

    2️⃣ Em dash frequency varies by context

    In formal writing (e.g., academic papers), em dashes are less common, regardless of author.

    In casual or conversational writing, both humans and AIs may use them liberally.

    3️⃣ Stylometric features are broader than one punctuation mark

    When people try to detect AI-generated text, they usually analyze a combination of features:

    Average sentence length

    Vocabulary richness

    Repetition patterns

    Syntactic structures

    Overuse or underuse of certain constructions

    Punctuation is just one small part of these analyses and isn’t decisive on its own.

    ✅ Bottom line: Em dashes can hint at style, but they aren’t a reliable “tell” for AI detection on their own. You need a holistic analysis of multiple stylistic and structural features to make a meaningful judgment.

    🤖 Why emojis aren’t a clear tell for AI

    1️⃣ AI can easily include emojis if prompted Modern AI models can and do use emojis naturally when asked to write in a casual or friendly tone. In fact, they can even mimic how humans use them in different contexts (e.g., sparingly or heavily, ironically or sincerely).

    2️⃣ Humans vary wildly in emoji usage Some humans use emojis constantly, especially in texting or on social media. Others almost never use them, even in casual writing. Age, culture, and personal style all influence this.

    3️⃣ Emojis can be explicitly requested or omitted If you tell an AI “don’t use emojis,” it won’t. Similarly, you can tell it “use lots of emojis,” and it will. So it’s not an inherent trait.

    4️⃣ Stylometric detection relies on more than one feature Like em dashes, emojis are only one aspect of style. Real detection tools look at patterns like sentence structure, repetitiveness, word choice entropy, and coherence across paragraphs — not single markers.


    ✅ When might emojis suggest AI text?

    If there is excessively consistent or mechanical emoji usage (e.g., one emoji at the end of every sentence, all very literal), it might suggest machine-generated text or an automated marketing bot.

    But even then, it’s not a guarantee — some humans also write this way, especially in advertising.


    💡 Bottom line: Emojis alone are not a reliable clue. You need a combination of markers — repetition, coherence, style shifts, and other linguistic fingerprints — to reasonably guess if something is AI-generated.

    If you’d like, I can walk you through some actual features that are better indicators (like burstiness, perplexity, or certain syntactic quirks). Want me to break that down?

    • Mustakrakish@lemmy.world
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      5 months ago

      I’ve never seen em dahses outside of an academic paper, so saying people use them liberaly is an olypmic level stretch.

      Also that comment was clearly written by ai itself.

      • voodooattack@lemmy.world
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        5 months ago

        I use them often even when I’m not writing anything important, just a habit from writing I guess.

        Fuck. I just realised I used them in my résumé that I sent out yesterday. Shit shit shit

  • Net_Runner :~$@lemmy.zip
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    5 months ago

    The illiterate flocking to Lemmy to profess that they don’t know how to make em dashes, therefore it’s AI