• Cocopanda@lemmy.world
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    But Gamergate said that Fascist conservatives would be our friends? What? Did the Russian disinfo targets get manipulated again?

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    He could say that he is doing AI research and AI training and reviews are just part of his scientific documentation.

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    29 days ago

    Man using a computer gets arrested for using a computer on YouTube. Amazon, seller of disgusting emulation game stealing piracy devices, is completely innocent.

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    Remember when Retro Game Corps almost had his youtube channel shut down by Nintendo for showing Nintendo footage on these handhelds?

    Yeah…he’s probably thinking to himself “Welp. Time to retire.”

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    Italy is a joke. Our politicians call us lazy, the rich go on TV crying because they can’t find people willing to work for minimal (or below) wage, and then a young person manages to carve themselves a path outside of the ‘norm’, our state immediately shows up and curb stomps them.

    I was talking with a colleague of mine the other day. They work two jobs to make a living. The state taxed them so much, they are paying more for the second job that they are gaining, basically working for free. Tax the poor, let the rich off the hook.

    Fuck Italy.

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      Up to 20k per year you pay 23%, from 20k to 32k you pay 25% and from 32k to 50k per year you pay 35% income tax. If my research is correct, the main job emplayer keeps the tax. So the second employer should keep those 23% as well. As long as your colleague earns less than 50k from both of his jobs, he only has to pay 12% of the second job‘s yearly income as taxes out of his own pocket.

      So mathematically it should not be possible to pay to be able to work.

      Unless he’s "self employed“ but then he’s allowed that employer to fist him lubeless.

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        It’s a bit of a complicated situation and I wouldn’t go into much detail, but basically, they live in Italy, but one of their job is (work from home) in another country. They are taxed by the other country, then taxed by Italy as well.

        After that, Italy fined them on some bullshit grounds and forced them to pay a ridiculous sum of money. Needless to say, they never attempted to skirt or evade taxes or anything. They worked their ass off and the country said “fuck you in particular” because Italy.

        I specifically remember them telling me that, despite being half Italian, they wanted to live in Italy because they love the country and have friends and family here, but now they don’t know what to do. It’s heartbreaking seeing how our country treats its citizens, then our politicians going on TV and lamenting the fact that young people choose to go live elsewhere. Italy as a country doesn’t see you as a citizen to protect, it just wants to squeeze you dry and leave you for dead.

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          They might Google some double taxation agreement between Italy and this other country. Usually, if there isn’t any, there should be a law to create a specific situation for them to avoid double taxation.

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          That really sucks, man. I fully empathize with getting fucked by a greedy government that protects the wealthy while abusing the working class. The world needs to unite against the elites destroying it.

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        That’s still not how progressive tax systems work. In your example, it’s the first 20k is taxed 23%, then the next 32k is taxed 25%, then the next 50k is taxed 35%.

        So if you made 52k in a year, the first 20k yields 4.6k in taxes, then the remaining 32k yields 8k in taxes. Leading to a total of 12.6k in taxes, or an effective rate of ~24.2%

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          When the scores are settled sure, doesn’t mean there’s not mechanisms in any particular country that make this harder. Work two Jobs in the UK without carefully sorting PAYE and one of those will be collected at 40% emergency rates. You get it back eventually, but if you are paying transport, meals and other expenses to attend the second job I can see how it could get close to nothing. You get most of it back later, but that doesn’t help marginalized people trying to earn extra right now.

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      The state taxed them so much, they are paying more for the second job that they are gaining, basically working for free

      Perhaps I’m misreading, but I don’t think this is mathematically possible.

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          Speaking from US perspective, our tax code is a few thousand pages. I don’t think it’s meant for most people to understand.

          That said, yeah the effective tax rate being a larger percent of one’s income than the income from a second job is probably something that would be understood by most if stated differently.

          Edit: i read some further responses and realized it’s a different situation than a simple effective tax rate issue. I also didn’t really understand the foreign and domestic tax issues at hand and resulting tax penalties though, so I’m in the ridiculous group.

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      Our politicians call us lazy, the rich go on TV crying because they can’t find people willing to work for minimal (or below) wage

      This sounds like Germany. I think it’s the norm in many countries by now. We already entered late stage capitalism, at this point it will only become worse.

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    According to the video, officials are not required to disclose what exactly the charges are or who has brought them until the initial investigation is complete under Italian law. At that point, the case is either dismissed or goes to trial. The complaint specifically mentions reproduction of copyrighted material from Nintendo and Sony, but the case may originate from the agency itself.

    So for now we don’t actually know the charges or if the trial will procede, but yeah definitely not fair.

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      Yeah, he only showed what the police gave him (they are investigating him for promoting copyright infringement).

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    When I’m dictator, any country that does something like this will be carpet bombed.

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    I’m surprised they’ve gotten away with shipping preloaded SD cards for so long. That was a risk waiting to blow up in someone’s face, though it obviously isn’t fair to be going after some guy rather than the distributors.

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      To be fair, they (anbernic at least) sidestep the obvious minefields. No Mario, Pokemon, etc. A bunch of really sketchy and somewhat janky MAME ROMs, and a bunch of NES and others, on my 35xxV and 406h.

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    Aah, the Guardia di Finanza, the one police organ all italians actually respect and fear ( or so I hear ).

    The charges don’t make sense though. Maybe by reviewing “pirate” material he was indirectly bypassing paying the italian state its due and thus they jumped him?

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    Sounds like a massive overreaction and abuse of century-old laws.

    If those devices are so bad, why not forbid selling them in Italy, instead of punishing people who buy them completely legally. Imagine going through all of this because you bought a laptop and posted a review online.

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    Retro gaming YouTuber Once Were Nerd has been sued and raided by the Italian government.

    That’s insane. I know many of these handhelds come with pirated roms but taking it out on a youtube reviewer is outrageous. Why don’t they just ban them from being shipped to italy?

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      Easier to stomp on one individual than to crack down on the businesses importing this stuff. They’re probably also collecting some kind of import duty on them too.

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      My guess is it’s because reviewing is advertisement, as he’s making money off the review if he monetized the video.

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    Fuck fascists. I can’t believe the literal Mussolini’s are making a comeback. Remember, the only good fascist is a dead fascist.

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      CIA killed all the leftists in Italy to keep Italy out of the USSR. Don’t forget that.

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          I mean. Are you trying to say that things that have been reported on and unclassified. Didn’t happen? Come on now young one.

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            No but that there are no leftists in Italy because of it. Or do you believe the CIA is killing all the leftist in Italy right now?

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                Reading through the article it appears that the group that carried out the most assassination was the Brigado Rosso, or Red Brigades. Interestingly, they also killed a prominent politician of the Christian Democrats, Aldo Moro, who was actively looking into working with the communist party, and his assassination killed his party’s plans to work with the Communist Party.

                The CIA appears to have been involved only marginally, being mentioned only only at one point where fascists ask them if the USA would theoretically support a coup. (Technically they’re also mentioned in the list of parties involved in the conflict, as alleged supporters of the fascists). While this doesn’t prove that they weren’t involved, I did expect there to be more proven CIA meddling based on your earlier claims.

                It appears that the CIA wasn’t to blame for the leftist’s. In fact, it seems like the Marxist-Leninist Red Brigades killed people until they had no allies left, thus being unable to sustain their campaign of assassinations. So, yeah, basically your source completely undermines your position.

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                  I want you to know. That handlers might not pull the bullets. But they control the messaging from Langley. Just like Che’s death. It wasn’t an American killing them. But they were in the room when they were killed.

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    Shipping the handheld with a SD card loaded with pirated ROMs is asking for trouble, why target the youtuber though?

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      why target the youtuber though?

      It’s the same taking the fight against drug dealers to the drug users. They don’t care about the lives they ruin as long as they can punish people.

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        They made a example, and how that impact the sales of the handhelds? They’ll probably sell more now.

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            Alternativelly, some higher-up got pressure via some politician after talking to some lobbyist or golf-buddy, to “do something”, and some lower-down who got the hot potato covered their ass by finding something they could do, all of which quite independently of any strategical considerations.

            If one doesn’t assume the Justice System aims be Just, a lot of things become easilly explained without the needed to find some kind of Master Strategy Beyond Our Comprehension to explain them.

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      Almost certainly there was some kind of pressure by somebody well connected on some higher up in the Italian Justice or Political Authorities of the

      “Something Must Be Done!”

      kind.

      Followed by whomever was the last link in the shit chain coming from above, following the mental process of:

      “This is Something we can do”

      “We shall do This!”

      It’s pretty standard in the stuff which isn’t their daily bread and butter that Justice Systems are driven by cronyism at the higher level and cover-my-ass at the lower level, especially in countries which have a culture of Cronyism.

      (People are people, and even in Justice Systems they’re no more impeccably honest and fair than elsewhere - in fact positions with power tend to attract people who are less honest and fair than average, IMHO).

      Often this shit gets overturned when it gets to court or on at least appeal (generally the system gets less crooked as you go up, though I know of cases in other similar countries in Europe were only when it got the European Court Of Human Rights was the injustice corrected) and once the Press’ (and the higher up’s) attention has moved on, but that is a mentally and economically very costly fight for individuals to fight, which is why poor people almost invariably get shafted in such a system when they cross the wrong person or “don’t know their place”.

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      Yeah, it’s weird bcs as I understand that copyright law from 1941 is for the actual distribution, and if he never got paid by anyone in the distribution chain (tho as understand he did get some free consoles to review), then he wasn’t part of it - just filming himself saying what can be bought on the market.

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        The exact specifics change country by country, in Italy there are a lot of horseshit rules around it because one of the most powerful unions lobbies (our equivalent of the RIAA) for more exclusive control over media at every chance they get, to the point that you’re not allowed to distribute even your own media through physical sales without paying a cut.

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    The creator, assuming he didn’t do anything wrong, complied with demands, providing full transcripts of his conversations and chats with gaming handheld manufacturers. The officers also took his phone, promising to return it in a few days. It was returned two months later, on June 15.

    Oof. A reminder to not talk to cops, kids.