Fuck you think the conservatives over there are better? Same shit different paint. Royal pedophiles.
I mean, only one is selling concentration camp merch so…
Both are supporting concentration camps in Gaza and want you to buy Israeli merch no difference?
😂 just because the Brits keep their noses high, doesn’t mean they aren’t covered in blood.
The only people in the world with a clean slate are the Palestinians. They never did nothing to nobody.
Your point?
Well, Arab history is pretty bloody but no one deserves genocide.
They absolutely are; I meant in the sense of personal safety. It makes a lot of sense to go to Britain to avoid being caught up in MAGA’s rampage, irrespective of the massive number of skeletons Britain has in its closet.
The UK is every bit as racist and anti-immigrant as the USA. While it’s a step UP at the moment, it’s not forever. Fascism’s grip is quickly coming for Europe—and it’s winning.
What makes you think she cares about that?
She’s a billionaire, she cares about what personally effects her life.
Hell, she had trump on her show before she was cancelled for being a piece of shit:
How about the fact that she herself is a survivor, so it does personally affect her life?
The US conservatives are objectively worse, but the British conservatives (and Labour) are trying their best to catch up
Must be nice to be of the ownership/wealthy classes and be able to move away from the fascists during their rise to power. The rest of us will have to do our best to remember our own humanity while we watch people become nazis and trade their humanity away before the leopards eat their faces.
Yup fuck these richies that flee with their money they made from being the spokespersons of the minority class they represent. They should stay and help fund the resistance but instead they say FYIGM.
I’ve seen a lot of comments on the Fediverse about people who have moved or aspire to move from red states to blue states. I hope they get the same level of vitriol in the future, just to keep things consistent.
False equivalence.
You hope my wife and I get the same level of vitriol because we want to move to a state that won’t condemn her to death in the, likely for my wife, event that there are complications during a pregnancy???
I hope you have the day you wish upon others.
It was sarcasm. Commenter was quick to judge others for leaving an unfavorable environment instead of staying to fight. The reality is not everyone wants to put themselves and their families in danger for the cause.
For real, especially with kids. They didn’t do anything to deserve it. Nor did kids with poorer parents but if your argument is that everyone needs to suffer together, that’s not a convincing one.
if they are mega-millionaires and make it known, then absolutely they will. You might take notice how the average scholars, MD’s, and PHD’s that are also fleeing aren’t getting such hate.
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For now, yeah. I mean there is no such place as a safe or “good” nation. Every one of them will hold you at gunpoint demanding money so they can build a library.
But actively and swiftly the US is going full nazi. If one leaves I don’t blame them.
For now, yeah. I mean there is no such place as a safe or “good” nation. Every one of them will hold you at gunpoint demanding money so they can build a library.
I’m not sure where the “gunpoint” part came from, but do you…not like libraries?
hahahah I love libraries. It’s a “reductio ad absurdum” that shows how a lack of tax payment will, eventually, result in a state destroying your everything, and when cops show up, it’s always at gunpoint. (at least in the US)
Before you get to thinking I’m a libertarian, recall I mentioned all nation states are bad.
recall I mentioned all nation states are bad.
I’m not sure what you’re advocating for instead of nations. Roving bands of nomads?
I mean … yes. (syndicalism) But this isn’t the thread for that.
Who is paying for libraries under your preferred system?
Syndacalism isn’t roving bands of nomads.
| I mean there is no such place as a safe or “good” nation.
you must not know many countries then or your definition of a good country must be weird.
name me one without a history of war, slavery, genocide, or colonialism. bonus points if its entire history has allowed gay people to exist.
so if a country has ever been bad in its history, it’s automatically also bad now? so, as i suspected your definition of a good country is weird.
there are no good nation states. and to your first question: correct.
Is there any human society that doesn’t have a history that can be traced back far enough to find war or violence?
Ironically, our king has incredibly limited power that is enforced by a strong belief that religion should be separate from politics and an independent judiciary. Your king doesn’t seem to have the same hurdles
Yeah the Constitution has deep abiding flaws the fuck do you want me to do, vote? I’ve voted for 20yrs now
I still think monarchy is trash and this argument sucks. Im gonna keep working toward something better.
Oh 100%, I’m a republican (lowercase R, in the British sense). I just find it ironic that the US portrays itself as having removed monarchy, when it was just replaced with dictator that has a term limit
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Dont get too high on your horse, the UK is just as fucked as the US is.
Former moderator FlyingSquid moved to the UK from the US to protect a transgender child. I hadn’t thought about it before now, but he must be part of the Ownership class.
two things can be true at the same time. some of us can afford it. some of us can’t.
ellen certainly can. ellen is not working class.
Her money came from working, not ownership, inheritance, or management. She’s rich, but still working class.Correction: Between the record company and “ED by Ellen” brand, she’s been a member of the capitalist class since at least 2010
yes. but even rich artists become owner class when they transition to having staff they hold the hiring/firing power over. it’s not about the amount of money so much as it is the methods by which it is acquired. (im not disagreeing with your reply)
oh, wow. I thought they were still in Terre Haute. Good for them, though I don’t understand what’s so attractive about the U.K.
Most people go where they have an opportunity. Either they have citizenship already or a pathway (like a parent) to it.
Although being stupid rich will get you access just about anywhere.
He had enough British ancestry that he was able to get a citizenship (or already had dual citizenship? I dunno). Think that was the only reason for choosing the UK in particular over any other European country.
From what little interaction I had with FlyingSquid, it seemed like his family was very working class and the move to the UK took a lot of sacrifice.
Ellen on the other hand has a net worth in the hundreds of millions and thus was never in any real danger in the US because of her sexuality.
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ellen is also a terrible person behind scenes of her show.
The trains are better, for sure. Everything? Idk about that
Seriously, who cares about Ellen moving?
I do. Because I have LGBTQ friends. Who feel forgotten and in danger.
The less we identify with the rich, the better.
I mean. I care about anyone. Who feels like they will be targeted. By any dictator.
What the fuck was Ellen doing for them when she lived in the US?
My dyslexic brain saw “Elon” and I got very confused by this comment at first.
That’s sad, don’t think about that loser
actually. I rarely ever do. I just tell my one friend that thinks he’s a saint. That he needs to go in for cult deprogramming.
How did your friends feel when she was pallin’ around with George Bush?
She’s as much a queer person as Oprah is a person of color. The rich are their own nation, and they don’t give a shit about you or your friends.
Saying they’re their own nation does how bad they are a disservice. These people have no creed, nation, or culture they disregard all of that for power a prime example of which being rich cunts who go to Dubai and rich Arabs who come to the West and act more debaucherous than a French aristocrat. To them creed, nation, and culture is simply a tool.
“I look forward to verbally abusing my new British friends,” she continued.
Don’t forget firing employees for refusing to cross picket lines…
Ellen is a piece of shit billionaire that wants applause for existing. She’s the same as musk or even trump.
Ellen is a billionaire?
I just googled it, and it’s estimated at 500 million.
So closer to a billionaire than a millionaire, without factoring in the hidden wealth because at that level tax evasion is normal.
Sounds like a desperate plea for attention.
This nightmare. She created a hostile working environment, her employees could never look her straight in the eye, else they might turn to stone. I remember reading a story long before she had the Ellen talk show about a card game she hosted at her house, and she was so mean to her guests. She made one woman cry because she won and wanted to leave early. She is a horrible person. I feel sorry for any country where she resides.
Your read about a card game she had at her house which went badly? Damn this woman to hell!
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That seems to be the word on street. A very not nice person. Her politics aside. I am happy she isn’t my neighbor. However it’s because many people have come forth since working for said person.
yea behind the show, she was a monster to the crew, employees. the family guy did a parody of her
No worries, the general UK population find this kind of vacuous and pompous American insufferable.
So exactly how the general UK population finds everyone….
I’ll have you know that I suffer some of my favourite people all the time.
lol
<—- All his family are Brit.
a yank buying land in a nature reserve in britain? How about we block that?
Yeah colonization sticks, don’t it?
Silver linings I guess.
She trying to get fans by saying she hates trump, bad people can still hate trump doesnt make them not be bad people
I wish our good news was better but the little victories count too.
If she moves back, will he move away instead?
Must be nice. Very few people have that level of privilege.
