Of course, but that is not how our species’ brains work, so take the positivity you can get.
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Curcut effect is like real life phisical manifestation of karma.
Do good stuff for people who need it, and that thing will also benefit you directly.
Not just that, they deserve the same rights and respect as you.
New parents, old people and people on their phone walking all want accessibility.
I have not always been perfect, but by and large I keep in my what I was taught since childhood to be empathetic, kind and be helpful without asking anything in return. As I grew older, I realised that not everyone were taught the same and thus don’t have the same values. That said, I realised that if I want to persuade others, I incentivise them by stoking their egos and showing how doing things could be beneficial for them.
I don’t think humans are purely selfish and egocentric, and having ego is not necessarily a bad thing. We are complex creatures that can’t be put into one box of category. But sometimes when ego rears its head, you kinda have to provide carrot and stick incentives to get things done.
Some people don’t have empathy so they need to adopt that first argument as their ethos. Well more often than not, they don’t even do that.
When the latter doesn’t trigger the empathy, I resort to the former. Some people are just too focused on their immediate surroundings to extend their empathy beyond their immediate family. That’s an issue in itself, but whatever discussion is going on in OP is not going to address that
Booth + more good arguments
It’s like the man who only starts caring about women’s rights after he has a daughter. Like, ok, I guess it’s nice that you’ve come around, but you couldn’t have exhibited basic humanity earlier? ffs you presumably had a mother, a wife/girlfriend, sister, female cousin, female friends, female coworkers so even if you require a personal connection, couldn’t you have gotten there earlier?
I know an ultra-conservative who suddenly cared about gay rights after his daughter came out. I’m sure the timing was entirely coincidental.
That’s Leagues better than the alternate, at least they showed growth.
But theres a systemic selfishness about “I don’t care unless it directly affects me or my loved ones”.
True, but I’d also like to add that he only cared about gay rights for his daughter. The rest of them can get fucked, apparently.
They are just selfish.
Things only matter if they affect them
How would gay rights for only a single person even work?
You must suspend logic in order to understand the conservative.
Well, that’s certainly better than remaining homophobic and disowning his daughter, which is the story we most often hear, sadly…
God forbid we have empathy for those brought up in shitty environments and learn.
It’s good they they grown. But it’s more of a “about fucking time” rather than “thank you for becoming less of a cunt”
They don’t actually care about women’s rights, they just want to protect their property. And of course, they’re constantly lusting over young girls, so by means of projection, they assume that everyone else is too.
You might as well start chanting #AllMenAreMisogynists
Should I? I don’t think that’s what I said.
BTW, I didn’t dislike your comment
That’s fine. I didn’t dislike yours either. I just don’t know what point you were trying to make. Because my point was essentially “a certain kind of (predominantly conservative) man is very sexist and they only learn that sexism is Bad Actually after they have a daughter”. Which is a far cry from what you suggested.
I used to work for a beloved cable company whose name rhymes with “bombast”, and they made damned sure that our iOS apps met federal accessibility requirements. Because they faced $1 million dollar per month fines from the FCC if the apps failed accessibility testing. Otherwise they would not have given two shits about blind people.
Everyone should care about accessibility, because it also improves things for non-disabled people.
Literally the curb cut effect
“No-one ever complains about too many elevators”
Taking the lift when you can easily manage the stairs is a waste of energy and contributes to global toastiness. Also, it’s hard enough to get enough physical activity in, the stairs is like a free mini workout!
I don’t think it is about equality but more equity
Both of those terms might as well be ancient Pharaoh curses to the average modern American median voter.
Hate that you need to conceive people with stuff like their own mortality or the curb cut effect.
Because those in power are bred and chosen to be selfish.
Sure, but you aren’t going to convince selfish people with that argument.
You know, the ones who need to be convinced?
They are the ones that need some sense whopped into them.
Just popping in to say this is also the key difference between Lawrence Kohlberg’s 5th and 6th Stages of Moral Development.
What most people don’t know about it is that not everyone will actually reach the 6th Stage. It’s more of an opt-in. The vast majority of society functions at around the 5th (probably much lower these days).
So if you fall outside this category, you’re likely far more emotionally developed and matured than the average person.
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I am fairly confident everyone I know IRL operates at stage 1-3? Where do you live, I want to move.
