• Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml
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    You can’t guarantee better mods, those are volunteers/instance admins/staff of an instance admin and are people. There is nothing inherent to how Lemmy works that ensures that people tasked with moderating aren’t power hungry or in some way a bit of a dick. There was to my understanding, a certain draw to Lemmy over Reddit in that the federated nature means the actions of some power hungry moderator on one instance won’t leave you having no option but to accept their behaviour because you can just migrate to another instance to see and interact with the same content or even spin up your own instance, but that doesn’t make the mods themselves any different and that’s all in theory anyway. In practice there isn’t currently a way to migrate user accounts from one instance to another so if your account is of value to you and you’ve run afoul of some ban happy mod in one community on one instance, then you’ll have to make a whole new account on another instance if you want to circumvent them and interact in that same community again from another instance and in such a case if its identifiably still you, or you want to engage in the original behaviour that incurred their wrath then they’ll just ban you again from your new instance because a different protocol design doesn’t mean different people.

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      Not only that but where do they think 3/4 of the mods went during the great migration and blackout out reddit?

      Lemmy dudes. They haven’t gone anywhere lol. Hell, reddit feels even less moderated these days besides the usual stickler subs like /r/anime lmfao.

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      I like that we can escape from site admins. There’s some profound magical thinking going on at lemmy.ml. But I have unsubscribed to all their communities. I haven’t yet blocked it entirely but I could do that too.

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    I tried going back to Reddit after a year and a half away. It’s literally unusable now. Got banned from like 5 subs and Reddit within 2 days whereas before my account was 7 years old without a ban. You literally can’t say anything there anymore without offending someone or starting a fight and you’ll get banned right away for any dissent or wrong think. Every mod is ban happy and if you say anything beyond a one word, vanilla answer, you get banned. It’s absolute trash, like I said I made it there for 7 years without a ban, now it’s just frustrating to get banned from every other sub for every other comment. And every post you put up gets taken down right away for one reason or another

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      I’m currently a public enemy on reddit (as in, they ban every account they find that could possibly be me) because I made a comment stating that Egyptians (I’m egyptian) are not zionists. This was in response to someone saying that Egyptians actually hate palestinians and support israel.

      I got permabanned, then they proceeded to permaban every account I made, after the first, the one that lasted the longest (and last) lasted 3 months until It was flagged again for saying “I don’t debate zionists” which reddit considers hate, they removed the 3 day ban I got for that but didn’t remove the permaban the account got for being associated with my old account (used on the same device).

      Basically each time I’m banned from a subreddit or temporarily banned from reddit itself my account gets terminated.

      All because I don’t support israel.

      I refuse to make another one out of principle

      Edit: I can’t stop laughing right now.

      THEY ACCIDENTALLY UNBANNED ME

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        That sounds comically bad. Like hard to believe bad. Even the slightest mention of anti-Zionist feeling is forbidden now on Reddit?

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          You better believe it. I had an account for almost 12 years that only got any kind of ban due to anti-zionist criticism I made. The whole affair with Gaza has broken me in ways I cannot describe. But you wouldn’t believe what was the comment I made that got me permabanned .

          Some zionists were trolling me on the Lebanon subreddit and accused all Lebanese of blaming our problems 100% on Israel. I only responded that we only blame Israel for what they deserve blame for.

          No seriously, that is what got me permabanned. They claimed that that comment was a call for violence against a marginalized group of people.

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    Reddit still has niches that (unfortunately) exist nowhere else, probably won’t exist anywhere else soon due to the need for foot traffic, and are tolerable as long as old.reddit.com stays up.

    And it’s the lesser evil over Discord.

    Lemmy is of course 1000x better, but it doesn’t matter if your niche there is a ghost town.

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    I’m not sure if mods are a proper criteria when it comes to comparing Lemmy and Reddit. The audience is mostly the same and Lemmy doesn’t automatically make people/mods better or worse.

    Also, you forgot one major point: API! I get to use and support my third party app of choice Sync here on Lemmy which was killed off by Reddit.

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    Nahh the mods are irrelevant, they’re human everywhere .

    Reddits a turd because its corporate, they’re literally exploiting you for their betterment. I dont understand why people are OK with that but here we are.

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    Lemmy.World is undergoing is bit of a Zionist admin/mods problem.

    They seem to admire the reddit r/worldnews model.

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      Add transphobia to the list, saying “questioning another users stated gender identity as a form of internet clout chasing is transphobic” gets your comment removed.

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      This is the good part of the fediverse too. Search for another instance that is more friendly towards the plight of Palestinians.

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        I don’t understand. If a mod from memes.world bans me from a meme community, I can still comment on memes.world from another instance? Or are you saying just go to another community on another instance that has the same kind of content? Because if it’s the latter then Lemmy’s userbase number problem comes into play. Even popular subjects only have like one or two big communities.

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          The mod will ban your account on !memes@lemmy.world E.g. balderdash9@lemmy.zip

          Nothing stops you from using another account on another instance to access the same community, like balderdash10@sh.itjust.works

          I don’t think I alluded to anything in my comment though.

          I could really go for some mouth numbingly spicy noodles.

          Edit: rereading my own comment, I’ve meant that Linkerbaan could have been posting on another community that is not @lemmy.world based. Like technology has multiple communities across multiple instances for example. But it’s been highlighted that they actively post on lemmy.world on purpose. To fight the fight.

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    I got banned from world news for being pro Palestinians and the mods wouldn’t even give me an answer as to why I got banned. Then when I kept asking I got a site wide ban for "“harassment”

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      I got perma IP banned from reddit after engaging a pro Trumper in a debate about what candidate actually gives us any remote chance for legalization. They devolved to trolling. I matche their energy. Guess who’s comments got downvoted to hell (the troll) yet still is allowed to keep their account.

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        I swear these people act like school staff who prioritize protecting bullies over their victims. I cannot count the number of times I was accused of being uncivil when I decided to match the bullshit of trolls and bullies.

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      I got banned from /news for being “antisemitic” because I debunked the fake israeli Rape propaganda and from worldnews for calling out a Zionist mod spreading pro-israel propaganda.

      Also took a few temp bans on .world for debunking other Hasbara such as claims about Hamas bases under hospitals in the beginning of the Genocide.

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          Justifying israel and America committing Genocide = reasonable discussion.

          Saying that blocking some ships to inflict economic pressure on the people committing Genocide is okay = terrorism.

          Liberals in a nutshell.

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          What are you on?

          I just recently got banned (I think, never got a response) from the politics sub for reporting another use that called me retarded. It’s legit confusing. I literally reported them because it seemed out of pocket but apparently I said something offensive as well

          I’m about ready to that go back to reddit, just using a web browser on my phone. This is place is asking users for a lot and people still don’t seem to understand what a community is. All the pretty words people used when we migrated over was all BS apparently. It’s weird since people clearly put in work but like, where are the mods/admins leading the community? Idk, maybe this stuff’s just too hard for mostly socially-stunted people to manage (including myself, raised on video games and whatnot)

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            Why not try a different instance? .world is by far the worst of the major instances and the most friendly towards transphobia, zionism, fascism, and left-punching.

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              Idk, it’s honestly all a bit too confusing. I still don’t get how this place works. I just use sync and even then some servers/instances or whatever will say I can’t vote for certain posts/servers - idk, I’m assuming there’s servers that get turned off at night or something

              Have a recommendation? I only joined world because it seemed to have the least requirements for joining and was maybe more popular. I remember other instances requiring you answer a bunch of questions to join or something like that

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                Idk, it’s honestly all a bit too confusing. I still don’t get how this place works. I just use sync and even then some servers/instances or whatever will say I can’t vote for certain posts/servers - idk, I’m assuming there’s servers that get turned off at night or something

                “Instances” are like islands. There are other islanders you can interact with, with their own buildings, but people can visit your buildings from other islands. You can’t make another island your “home,” though, and just interact with their buildings. Some islands are on good terms, and some are on bad terms, and block each other.

                What this looks like practically, are that you need to pick an instance that passes your vibe check. Scrolling by local on your home instance should be fun and engaging, and scrolling by “all” should show you more stuff you want to see.

                Lemmy.world intentionally defederates from the more overtly Leftist instances, as an example, so it skews more right-wing.

                Have a recommendation? I only joined world because it seemed to have the least requirements for joining and was maybe more popular. I remember other instances requiring you answer a bunch of questions to join or something like that

                Go to this instance explorer, check out interesting instances, and scroll locally, anonymously. See the vibe! If you like the vibe, make an account or apply for one, and start interacting. You don’t have to delete your old account! I have 2, each on different instances, depending on my mood.

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          The reason I made my account on .world was because it was the most Zionism infested instance. It was a very intentional choice.

          As long as you can debunk the Hasbara without getting banned it’s the best place to change people’s minds. You’d be amazed what .world looked like 9 months ago.

          The mods put up with it for a while. But now the elections are coming close and Biden is still committing Genocide the .World mods are stepping up the censorship.

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      Is the onboarding experience any better? I remember the initial process of joining Lemmy felt very shady and not user friendly. That can be a massive deterrent for people joining. Then on top of that having to filter out all the communities that are not to my taste.

      Overall it was a messy non-user friendly experience, but now that I’m here I’m happy.

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        Kinda feels like the site isn’t developing much at all tbh. I know mods have been asking for more tools for a while now

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        I tried to recruit a friend of mine but the moment I tried to explain instances to him, he zoned out. I wouldn’t call it non-user friendly, but it’s not as simple and dumbed down like other social media is.

        Also roughly a year ago there have been a couple of articles thrown around on Twitter and certain subreddits which wrote about CP stuff going on on Mastodon. So the Fediverse had some bad press. Which is rich coming from the site that allowed people like Violentacrez to fester.

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          Instances are great, but are also a problem for onboarding.

          Is there a single point of entry for people now? I can imagine there being a website people could go to that asks a few simple questions and sorts (or load balances) people to certain instances. This would of course need some way for people to transfer their accounts in the future should they not be happy with their instance. Additionally each instance would need to have some kind of API call for the single point of entry to create the accounts You could even have a simple survey to gauge people’s interests to help them in the community filtering process and present the mobile apps that are available.

          Just some thoughts of course on how it might be possible to improve the users first experience.

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      Well the main problem is that the left path has about a tenth the content.

      And also that Redditors are terrified of change.

      • So many communities simply don’t have alternatives here. But I’m happier with the quality of the communities that do exist. So what if they don’t have spam bots sharing 6-12 month old memes that sometimes make no sense outside the timeframe they were post and users just repeating catch phrases for karma increasing the amount of “content”?

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          There are like 5 people here to talk about my entire country of 10 million while the Reddit community gets 2000+ every day. Even a karma farmer would help here as long as it’s not a bot and occasionally replies to comments.

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    I don’t know why people keep attributing privacy to Lemmy when ActivityPub is anything but.

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      Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from? Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view? Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?

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        Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from?

        That depends on the implementation.

        Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view?

        That depends on the implementation.

        Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?

        That—believe it or not—depends on the implementation.

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      There is substantially less content , but there is content. I don’t get everything I am looking for, but enough to keep me happy

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      And the community that is here is, amazingly, somehow even worse than Reddit, on average, when it comes to being a hive mind that is wildly intolerant of any disagreement.

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        I personally disagree, mainly because the interactions have much more depth than the same 30 unfunny comments that people make on reddit ex: this. Don’t get me wrong it happens here as well, just way less. I also see people back claims up with evidence here way more, it’s not always valid evidence but at least an attempt is made more.

        The thing I like the best is the lack of self righteousness (ironic I’m making this comment on this post haha) that reddit has, that was my personal biggest complaint there. Like on reddit if there is an animal in a video in any way shape or form you can almost always find someone screeching about animal abuse, even when it is obviously not.

        I of course have bias in favor of Lemmy and this is highly dependent on the community. I will admit Lemmy is super left leaning, which I like, but definitely supports your hive mind argument. Even though I lean left I think it would be healthier for Lemmy to have more of a presence from the right. Unfortunately with how the political landscape is today I think it won’t be very achievable but hopefully when we hit the post Trump era divisiveness will ease making coexistence here more achievable.