• P03 Locke@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      5 months ago

      Calling it cheating is about as dumb as when math teachers called calculators cheating. If everybody has access to a calculator that can process any division math problem you throw at it, learning how to do long division is suddenly not very useful.

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        Cheating is when you skip a part of the process, and when the process is there to help you learn something then you’re cheating yourself. It is the same as math teachers enforcing no-calculator rules. They weren’t doing it to be pointlessly strict. They were doing it to force you to excersice your brain. You need to know the processes they’re asking you to do. Once you know how, then you can use a calculator without missing out. Knowing the process is incredibly helpful in higher math, or in practical applications when you need to think of how to get to a desired result from what you have.

        It’s like going to the gym and having a robot lift the weights for you. Sure, the reps got done but you didn’t actually get anything out of it. Is that useful or are you just wasting your time and money?

      • IsaamoonKHGDT_6143@lemmy.zip
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        Realistically, we learn these manual things by tradition and understand the basics. But in the working world that is automated and we only have to learn other things that are more important.

        The Big Four accounting firms offer AI products.

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          we only have to learn other things that are more important

          Like which bins to search in to find food, which bridges are best to seek refuge under…

      • AnarchistArtificer@lemmy.world
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        When I was in high school, in the 2000s/2010s, our final maths exams included a calculator and a non calculator paper. As far as I’m aware, that’s still typical today. The advent of calculators required us to rethink our approach in teaching and setting tests in maths, but that doesn’t diminish the usefulness of learning long division.

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        Learning to do things yourself is exercise for your brain. It doesnt matter that you wont apply that exact skill later, but being well exercised youll be fit to more easily solve problems in the future. Dont underestimate the destructive impact that outsourcing your cognition can have on your brain.

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      The standard degree course is 3-4 years

      I think this year’s intake will be the first where everyone at the uni will be post-chatgpt.

      Between the pandemic and LLMs, I honestly reckon my uni experience from the end of the 00s is completely alien to those doing it today