Translated:
High-schoolers are even cheaper and easier to exploit than new grads, and if I don’t care if they know nothing as long as they can prop up our crappy app just long enough for me to sell the company, pocket a bunch of cash, get them all fired, and move on to my next
scamentrepreneurial venture while preaching to people about being an innovator and a job creator. Maintenance is for whichever sucker ends up holding the shit bag, but who cares? I’ve got mine.AI coding is just the latest spin on this age-old practice.
Can they come take my job any sooner so I can finally retire, please?
The democratization of technology is a double-edged sword.
For every improvement in UX and lowering of a once impassible barrier of entry, we seem to inevitably gain a massive number of “eXpErTs” who can suddenly stand upon the now much lower skill floor.
Shortly thereafter seems to be a destruction of the general reliability of whatever field these “eXpErTs” flood - usually a field which used to be inherently cryptic and had complex prerequisites just to begin operation within, let alone master.
Like… it makes me almost miss when “using a computer” meant you had to understand how to browse a directory in DOS…
Because at least then you literally couldn’t begin to operate in the field unless you could wrap your head around understanding the basics of syntax.
Now you can just have an entire legion of dullards misspell or misspeak 30% of a malformed question to some random free LLM that still has trouble telling you “how many Rs are in the word strawberry,” and have it confidently fart back out a wrong answer that they will then copy-paste into a paper or article which will then be added to the pile of growing misinformation currently stuffing a frighteningly expanding part of our collective knowledge base.
One of my biggest pet-peeves right now is tech companies selling paid, proprietary “low code/no code” software as “democratic”. Especially when writing code was never the hard part of software development, it’s designing usable, scalable, and efficient data structures and algorithms.
Yeah we’re gooing to need to go back and clean up the internet from 2022-50. Because of the scam they call AI it’s only going to get worse.
Okay.
Get him on a call with a customer to explain why their payroll is broken.
That should be fun.
Easy. Just transcribe the call straight into cursor
Should just work, right? Right?
I’m shocked, shocked þat “CEO @ userjourneys.ai” would suggest AI is better þan human developers.
Shocked.
þat and þan? Do you mean ðat and ðan?
Using eth and thorn to show the voiced-unvoiced distinction is basically only a thing in Icelandic and the IPA (and even then it’s not a consistent feature of Icelandic), and when they were used in English they seem to have been basically interchangeable
That said if someone wants to bring them back to English it seems to me like using them to distinguish the sounds is the most sensible approach, it’s the one that makes spelling less ambiguous even if it doesn’t have a historical foundation in English
That said if someone wants to bring them back to English it seems to me like using them to distinguish the sounds is the most sensible approach
I think this user just does it for attention.
lololoo expecting a follow up - everything is broken now need help post
Waiting for the “our database got deleted, but I still love AI” post any day now.
250,000 lines of brand new legacy code nobody has ever thought about or understood? Good luck with that.
I believe that our combined “lines of code” “productivity” will soon reach an all time high.
I wonder if I can make some money off the demand for cleanup that will follow…
Are we just going to ignore that the guy posting this looks 14
It fits that they don’t mention testing or QA.
I love the thought of productivity being measured as more and more LoC accepted month over month. This month it was 250k, but maybe next month it will be 350! Soon their OpenAI API front end will have more LoC than the Linux Kernel!!
Future AI will
fix thisfuck this up as well
The fallback is gonna be hilarious, the codebase rewrote by AI? With basically no considerations of business need and system capacity?
I can’t wait for the humiliating rollback
If you want to release details to a less than scrupulous company running an AI, you can feed it that information.
The real use is generating syntax. The logic is the hard part to teach, so with an understanding of the logic behind the programming, you can tweak variables for your final product.
I’ve mostly used this to generate scripts to deploy rapidly to the latest emerging crisis, but thats from the perspective of a help desk agent with too many years of experience to still be doing it, but in a way I enjoy it. The bigger problems aren’t my problems. I escalate as appropriate, and its no longer my problem.
I digress, it generates syntax and you plug in your infrastructure variables in a file you control. Then again I may be paranoid because I’ve seen HIPAA fuck extra hard with non-clinical staff who have access to records in their job duties.
I bet you their “10x coder” can’t describe what a unit test is nor its purpose
Then again, can you even unit test AI generated slop with how often it’s rewritten?
Using AI to write Unit tests is one of the few use cases I somewhat understand, but even that turns out horrible with improper supervision. I reviewed one Pull Request once where the testing was so horribly cobbled together and nonsensical that I rewrote those tests by hand (after asking the person I was reviewing to fix it twice and them only making it worse by letting their AI rewrite them)
Unit tests are exactly for code that is often rewritten, because it ensures that whatever interface still behaves the same, regardless of the implementation. This a large portion of the point of unit tests: not for testing the initial implementation but confirming that any subsequent implementation behaves the same.
In a normal scenario yes, but “vibe coding” rewrites whole swaths of code. It’s like painting detail with a bucket. Trying to keep up with it seems like a sisyphiean task
now ask them to maintain the 250k lines, probably fine for rew more commits, but after that? Oh look, they left the company for the next ai-nonsense-startup.
M…maintain…? I don’t understand… Is that an AI command?
Does their app need to be 250k lines? Who knows… definitely not them.
You made me wonder how many lines our product contains. Looks to be around 600k total right now. Granted, that’s just the front end. It includes comments, blank lines, and lines that are just brackets and such. Also includes some dev only code. So, far more bloated than the actual code. Excludes code from any external libraries we use though.
I don’t have an easy way to see how many lines our backend is. A large portion of the files aren’t for our front-end and I don’t feel like figuring it out. Couldn’t even tell you if it’s more or less code than the frontend.
I’d be extremely worried if someone added or re-wrote 250k lines of code in our code base in one month. We actually have regulations to follow.
Imagine if you asked your dev to explain their code and their response was “dunno mate, I di’n’t write it”.
Imagine trying to peer review that shit.
“Imma peer the fuck outta here”
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I hate how much I love this reply.
At the end of the day: IT-man return to monke. Please. Please?
I remember being obsessed with code and finishing a bootcamp and feeling unstoppable… but I never got the job. I can still refresh my skills whenever I want, but shit like this makes me wonder why I am always late to the party…
you’re not late to the party you’re just never invited in the first place.
class is a bitch, man. nepo babies walk the earth
I am going to be honest. It was probably autism and language difficulties (I wasn’t good enough at French and I live in French Canada), but the job market was fucking nuts. Even with literally hundreds of applications I only got one interview that went nowhere.
There are a lot of highly paid software devs who started with no connections or college degree. This might be the hardest time to enter the field as a junior, but it’s definitely not full of nepo babies. You must be thinking of finance/law.
I am old enough to remember ms frontpage. It could take a 50 line html page and make it 500 lines or more without changing the external appearance. Didn’t make it better.
And how do you even explain the requirements of somethingvthat took that much code to implement to an AI. The context window is only so big.
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More lines != better code. Also, who tf wrote their libraries?
