It’s absolutely insane that our media is so linked to the United States that our Conservatives only start to fall when people see American Conservatives getting beat-down and shamed in the presidential race. (and rightly so)
Are we, as Canadians, unable to tell how shitty our own Right-Wing is unless the American Mirror tells us so?
Maybe Canadians are smart and able to learn from the US not to elect right wing psychopaths. I really hope so, because Conservatives never solve any problem. They only make things worse.
I’m from Quebec and we have this character called Elvis Gratton and one of his famous line is “Ils l’ont l’affaire les americains” or in bastardized English “Americans know what they are doing”.
Elvis Gratton is a caricature of a typical man of that era where a lot of Quebecers were enamored with the US. At that time in the US, it was the golden era of the American dream (but we know how it turned out).
When I see conservatives spreading their bullshit, it reminds me of that character which is not very intelligent and how pervasive the US conservative propaganda is in Canada.
While I’ve had similar thoughts, I have to wonder if the reverse is true. We’re seeing an uprising of joy and caring; something as equally infectious as the hateful, controlling rhetoric of the Trump-era Republican Party.
I think (hope) people see the two options and are drawn to the joy. Being angry is exhausting.
There is a lot of terrible out there we need to work together to solve. Some of it is sad, depressing, frustrating, wildly unjust-but we can be joyful in tackling these issues. Maybe not all the time, but then no one is ever one thing or one mood or one emotion. Nevertheless, a campaign of joy can make us realize there is indeed another way.
Looking at Trump’s tragic demagoguery and seeing what’s going on with the Harris/Walz campaign , it’s not hard to believe more and more people are thinking “you know what, I want that.”
So hearing PP using the same old poor-us, divisive, othering talking points begins to take on some of the same burden. It’s tired. It’s ugly. It’s empty.
One can dream right?
uprising of joy and caring
Boggles me that people see Harris that way, but I guess things are just that bad.
Personally I think Harris is riding a wave of the uprising of hope. She is not driving it, but she has managed to tap into it and to give people who believe in the power of breaking free of pessimism a candidate who at least plays lip service to hopefulness even if here core values remain the typical doom and gloom. In many ways she’s an updated version of Barrack Obama: aware of social issues and willing to engage with them, ultimately a neoliberal conservative. Unfortunately, this year, this is the best we’re gonna get so a lot of people involved in the uprising of hope are going to, and should, vote for her. Its just we need to keep this all going. We need to vote in local elections for candidates who will give us superior voting systems to first past the pole, and we need to continue demonstrating in the streets for the decolonization of earth. Kamala wants us to shut up, and the democrats want to tell us the DNC isn’t the right time to protest for the end of genocide. We need to show them they can’t shut us down that easy. But we also need to avoid a Donald Trump presidency at all costs. So keep telling Kamala she’s wrong about Israel. But also do vote for her. But then also make her presidency difficult without recognizing that sending F-35s to Israel is a subversion of the will of the people
I think that a smart voter should be aware that the first task is electing Harris, but then they need to immediately transition to fighting Harris. It’s a weird position to be in.
Yup. A lot of people don’t vote because they don’t feel heard. Well. We have a major opportunity right now with how unpopular Donald Trump is and his violent his band of weirdos are about to get. We can get in president Harris and then make ourselves heard as we stand against the violent weirdos. We can say “we the people of the united states of america don’t stand for this nonsense. We don’t stand for violence being what decides everything. We will resist violence with violence if we must, but we will not allow ourselves to rule with or be ruled by it. If we are going to continue living on this earth we must dismantle the global system of torture we live under and for good. The people of Palestine need to be free. The people of Africa can’t constantly be at civil war for what’s left of the resources we stole from them. And the Russian Federation cannot continue to be allowed to interfere in elections across the globe”
Harris has made it clear she is willing to court us, willing to be seen listening to us, but she is not willing to like us or be of us. That’s fine. Joe Biden has called himself a transition president. Perhaps Kamala will be, too. We just have to show that this matters to us, and that there’s too many of us to stop the movement.
I said in another comment that I see Harris as riding a wave of optimism, not as driving it. Well? We are that wave! It would be irresponsible for us to let her ride that wave into the white house without benefit to who’s doing it. We must demand what we deserve from all this:
- Food
- Housing
- Fair pay
- Leisure time
- Clean water
- Healthcare
- For our comforts not to come at the cost of torture with the only benefit going to the uber wealthy
I can’t wait for Pierre Poilievre to lose.
Imagine him losing to an AOC type. 💦
I know she’s not exactly progressive like AOC is, but I’m still baffled as to why the Liberals aren’t running Crystia Freeland.
While there she attracted the attention of the KGB, which tagged her with the code name “Frida”, and Soviet newspapers, who attacked her as a foreigner meddling in their internal affairs over her contacts with Ukrainian activists. The KGB surveilled Freeland and tapped her phone calls, and documented the young Canadian activist delivering money, video and audio recording equipment, and a personal computer to contacts in Ukraine. She used a diplomat at the Embassy of Canada in Moscow to send material abroad in a secret diplomatic pouch, worked with foreign journalists on stories about life in the Soviet Union, and organized marches and rallies to attract attention and support from Western countries. On her return from a trip to London in March 1989, Freeland was denied re-entry to the Soviet Union. By the time her activism within Ukraine came to an end, Freeland had become the subject of a high-level case study from the KGB on how much damage a single determined individual could inflict on the Soviet Union; a 2021 Globe and Mail article quoted the report by a former officer of the KGB, which had described Freeland as “a remarkable individual”, “erudite, sociable, persistent, and inventive in achieving her goals.”
Nenshi for the NDP would be excellent, but I doubt Alberta will let him go.
EDIT: And ladies, I am so, so sorry about the gender gap there. Jesus Christ.
understated detail: NDP snuck up on Libs? that’s a pleasant surprise. Maybe people did notice that all of recent progressive changes were forced by NDP onto Libs… interesting
looking at the graph it does leave impression that Lib losses went straight to NDP gains
… or, as we call it, a split vote.
minority government with NDP+Lib holding majority is OK. Cons can grab majority but will be gridlocked on every move, meaning we’ll retain status quo for a bit, until Libs and NDP will decide to call election
Cons can grab majority but will be gridlocked on every move
Genuine question, why the assumption of gridlock if the conservatives form government with a majority?
look at the numbers. NDP +Libs outnumber them in Parliament so anything they try to pass… including budget is in NDP+Libs hands… if budget does not pass… it’s auto-trigger for election if memory serves me right.
NDP +Libs outnumber them now, yes. I assumed by “Cons can grab majority” you meant a majority of seats following an election, no?
My understanding is that party with the most votes gets to form government, is it not so?
Won’t matter since people are just voting con because they’re tired of Trudeau
That can be fixed, using Biden as an example.
Fascism does a really good job speaking to the anxieties and insecurities of men. Even young men. Especially young men.
Anyone who doesn’t see the warning signs is either historically or willfully ignorant.
Anyone who doesn’t see the warning signs is either historically or wilfully ignorant.
Which is why it’s so embarrassing – we live in the information age and these people are still falling for tricks from hundreds of years ago, despite being told specifically this would happen.
Sooo, I guess Canada really just wants to get railed by a bunch of rich pricks. Even across age, education and social class the CPC is the preferred party, with the only disparity being between women and men. I am no expert on women but I can tell you for sure that most men have tribe-brain and Poilievre knows it.
I want the NDP. I don’t want diet maga lite.
You can see how quickly their house of cards is collapsing down south. We need a smart woman to be in power here as well (of course that lets out the Alberta premiere).
Fortunately I’m an educated male who can think critically. Nobody I know who is well educated wants CPC in power. They have no plan, they just slam others when questioned.
Freeland isn’t a dummy, not by any stretch, but she’s also been Hillary’ed over the last several years and would be glass-cliff’ed if she ran. After that, the LPC bench is thin.
The NDP has a similar problem: they’ve spent the post-Layton era chasing donation candidates (which is why get Singh instead of Angus) and their bench is thin, too.
The CPC, curiously, as a relatively strong bench, mostly because they’re packed to the gills with backstabbing business grifters.
Honestly, men should not be allowed to vote.
