GitHub just got less independent at Microsoft after CEO resignation
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GitHub will be part of Microsoft’s AI engineering team
  • rozodru@lemmy.worldEnglish
    43·
    4 个月前

    Didn’t this clown literally say like lastweek that if you’re a dev and you’re not using AI to get out? well…he’s out and look what happens.

    Move to Codeberg, donate to them, or self host your git repos.

    • josefo@leminal.spaceEnglish
      1·
      4 个月前

      I’m in the process of moving mine to self host, I’ll put a guide with the steps I’m following so others can follow them. It’s really good that git basically provides the thing out of the box. This is ok for most of my use cases which are private repos, or shared with small groups of friends. For public projects, I think we still need a way for projects to be easily found, like a directory. Sadly GitHub filled that space, it was ubiquitous. Not even gitlab or bitbucket approached the massive adoption github has. Even some fediverse version of it would probably have a hard time being that massive.

    • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      20·
      4 个月前

      Our company runs everything on Azure. We use windows PCs, Visual Studio Professional, C# .Net, outlook, teams, etc.

      We make enterprise software and I am happy really. I wasn’t at the start but as time goes on I don’t care, I do my job and go home.

      • Nikls94@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        4 个月前

        So your company either works with Microsoft or has a weird idea of security. Teams does not work without taking home to Microsoft. My company tried everything but couldn’t make it work, so they extended their Skype for business service for some years.

        I hope they switch to Linux when this is over.

        • dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
          11·
          4 个月前

          Been in business 20 years with regular pen testing and had no complaints and have some pretty large clients.

          .Net is popular in the UK for enterprise.

          Might do you well to make less assumptions.

      • essteeyou@lemmy.worldEnglish
        4·
        4 个月前

        The company I worked at got acquired by a big tech company. We’re switching from Google suite to Microsoft, Mac to Windows, Slack to Teams, etc. It’s pretty painful as transitions go, and if not for golden handcuffs I’d be gone.

        I’m not sure if I’ll ever be happy with Visual Studio though, so I use Jetbrains Rider.

    • Master167@lemmy.worldEnglish
      16·
      4 个月前

      Because businesses that use .NET are already paying for it with their visual studio subscription or higher Microsoft support. It’s a bare minimum product that has no incentive to improve because no one pays for it. But businesses force the use of it because “we’re already paying for it”

    • mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
      82·
      4 个月前

      Or your own server. But yeah this is not so good for the rest of us. They are doubling down on AI.

      • woelkchen@lemmy.worldEnglish
        261·
        4 个月前

        Self hosting for your own needs is great but you won’t get the “drive by” contributions you get from shared platforms. On GitHub, Gitlab, and Codeberg, if I even see as little as a typo in the readme file, I open a pull request. I will not sign up on a hundred different git hosters for stuff like that.

        • mesa@piefed.socialEnglish
          13·
          4 个月前

          I remember Sourceforge, bitbucket, and a host of other “source” servers. GitHub was nice for a while, but its just another iteration of the same. Heck a lot of the major repos (like Linux for example) only do mirrors to GitHub. The same with codeberg, Gitlab, and other centralized services.

          At my last few jobs, we couldn’t host on GitHub because of HIPPAA compliance. It was fine. Self hosting git is VERY common in quite a few industries.

          • woelkchen@lemmy.worldEnglish
            6·
            4 个月前

            Adding Oauth with GitHub and GitLab is pretty easy

            OAuth is just making yet another account with a 3rd party authorization mechanism.

        • lime!@feddit.nuEnglish
          5·
          4 个月前

          i am still rooting for patch requests to become more mainstream, it seems like the best possible solution. it just needs some discoverability.

    • mintiefresh@piefed.caEnglish
      231·
      4 个月前

      I would like to but I do want some private repos.

      Maybe self hosting is the best move from here on in.

      • Jason2357@lemmy.caEnglish
        23·
        4 个月前

        A forge like Codeberg is great for collaboration, but if you mean private as in just-for-yourself, pushing to a bare repo on just about anything will get it done. No need for a software forge. If you already sync files somehow, like some dropbox equivelant, put bare repos on there and push/pull from there. That said, forgejo is very easy to self-host and the identical UI to Codeberg.

        • Cenzorrll@lemmy.worldEnglish
          13·
          4 个月前

          I don’t do any development, but my stepkid is starting to get into it, so I set up a forgejo container on my server. I had zero issues setting it up and now I’m planning on using it for my own purposes.

      • Feyd@programming.devEnglish
        71·
        4 个月前

        Private repos, if you don’t need a forge, can easily be pushed to a VPS with ssh

  • Gsus4@mander.xyzEnglish
    67·
    4 个月前

    So they’re just going to use GitHub as a code training dataset? Embrace, Extend, Extinguish.

  • dil@lemmy.zipEnglish
    52·
    4 个月前

    Issue on every github project should be “hosted on github” (just kidding kinda not really) Has github ever actually helped discoverability?

  • lime360@kbin.earth
    731·
    4 个月前

    i don’t think being owned by a shitty billionare company counts as independent

    • AmbitiousProcess (they/them)@piefed.socialEnglish
      44·
      4 个月前

      I believe that’s probably why they specify in the headline “at Microsoft” rather than just “independent.”

      You can have an independent division within a company that doesn’t get orders from the company’s main CEO, or you can have it be fully under that person’s oversight. It used to be a separate division with its own management, now it’s not, thus it’s no longer internally independent.

      • panda_abyss@lemmy.caEnglish
        32·
        4 个月前

        Huge différence when you have an executive team that can say no.

        Now that the No guys are out, MS CoreAI team can do whatever the fuck they want.

        I should have deleted my data earlier.

        • AmbitiousProcess (they/them)@piefed.socialEnglish
          22·
          4 个月前

          You’ve still got time. Even when management transitions, it takes MUCH longer for actual systems and processes to catch up to the new “vision” they have for it.

          If you want to delete your data, now would be the time before they actually start implementing any new practices.

  • OnfireNFS@lemmy.worldEnglish
    9·
    4 个月前

    I’m running a self hosted Gitlab instance right now but thinking of switching to Forgejo. Anyone tried both and have thoughts on each?

    • doeknius_gloek@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      16·
      4 个月前

      I use GitLab at work and Forgejo at home. GitLab is huge, Forgejo is lighter. GitLab Runner is very nice, Woodpecker was a pain to setup but it now does everything I need. GitLab supports subgroups, Forgejo does not. Forgejo is FOSS with a non-profit behind it, GitLab Inc. is for-profit.

      At the end, I like to work with both. GitLab has lots of features, but for my own stuff Forgejo serves me very well and I like the openness of it.

        • pp99@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          4·
          4 个月前

          I’ve just installed and configured it, it’s pretty easy and straightforward. But there are things that should be smoother, for instance I want to run my pipeline on a custom docker image hosted on the same forgejo oci registry and authentication it’s a nightmare

    • kensand@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      3·
      4 个月前

      I have self-hosted both, although admittedly Gitlab was quite a few years ago. Forgejo is faster and lighter, GitLab is slow and huge. Unless you know you need a very specific GitLab feature, I’d go Forgejo all day.

  • sad_detective_man@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    50·
    4 个月前

    shit, whats this going to mean for repos like massgrave? will microsoft enforce shitty policies against DIY software that’s published there if it violates somebody’s terms of use?

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
      602·
      4 个月前

      I’m finding this kind of Pikachu surprised face meme worthy, really.

      We all know and knew that GitHub is Microsoft’s. We all know that Microsoft is fucking evil, yet everyone and their mother have their main repo management with GitHub.

      W.T.F.

      what did you expect would happen, sooner rather than later?

      Well technically nothing has happened yet, but you can imagine the fun that is coming

      • turdburglar@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        17·
        4 个月前

        i’m having these same feelings about my youtube channel. they tell me i’m paranoid…

        ‘what, you think youtube is gonna go down?’

        it’s not that i think it’s gonna go down, but it’s that nothing gold can stay. i gotta get some eggs in a different basket.

      • iglou@programming.devEnglish
        18·
        4 个月前

        I honestly don’t understand why Github hasn’t been abandoned by users at this point. If I were a company, I’d either go to the competition, who is just as good if not better, or host in-house if the means are there.

        I’m just a freelancer and I gave up on github 3 years ago

    • NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zipEnglish
      901·
      4 个月前

      Codeberg has a lot of restrictions regarding private repositories and… complicated verbiage regarding what licenses they want for public repositories.

      For public repositories… do you think that MS et al can’t already scrape all of that?

      I am all for telling MS to go fuck themselves. But it is important people actually understand what they are and aren’t getting in terms of privacy and the like. It is like how people still sometimes pretend that the completely open site where just about anyone can run an instance has LESS ai scraping than a reddit.

      • GnuLinuxDude@lemmy.mlEnglish
        763·
        4 个月前

        The key point about codeberg as I understand it is it’s meant for foss projects. It’s not really much more complex than that. Want to host non-free software, or want to use it for your company’s private code repository? They don’t want that on their servers, so either find an alternative or self-host forgejo, which is the same code (derived from gitea) that powers codeberg itself.

    • Mitch Effendi (ميتش أفندي)@piefed.mitch.scienceEnglish
      28·
      4 个月前

      i just wanted to drop my personal favorite self-hosted git alternative, Gogs (gogs.io). i have very modest git needs (i just need a place to host code and interact with the git client), and i think it fits the bill well.

      i am not associated with it at all, i just want folks to know that self-hosting your own git service has really never been easier or better; there are so many good options, like a similar project, gitea.

      if you are uncomfortable with exposing your home network to the internet, you can use tools like tailscale funnel or a reverse proxy server like caddy and a $5 VPS from any cloud host of your choosing to obscure your home IP, while still keeping the storage and the brains somewhere closeby.

      imo, the only way forward for all of us to stay safe is to keep repeating a simple mantra: “let’s go back to making websites.”