Sounds good.

No. A losing campaign looks like 2021-01-06. That’s what a losing campaign looks like. It ain’t over until the fat lady sings. Republicans are disenfranchising known Dem voters, making it hard to vote for people they suspect won’t toe the line, and have people out singing the praises of alternative Left-Wing candidates to everyone who will listen, taking advantage of the ‘the Left has to fall in love, the right falls in line’ factor. Check your registration. Check the last day to register and check your registration again on that day (at least, I’d check weekly until the last day). Make sure your address is correct and you have the proper things to jump through flaming hoops and moats filled with crocodiles because Team Pepe WILL throw that shit in your way. And make a plan to vote. You got to get your vote for Harris (and nobody else other!) locked in on or before election day. Deliver a resounding no to Team Shitgibbon!

Here’s the receipts:

I’m not sure. Should I report my own post to get it in front of the moderator’s eyes, or just keep these posts whenever we start talking about this poster.

Thanks for digging those up.

True, you might be right, but at least calling it out calls people like Jordon Lund to attention. I noticed after he caught flak from me, he started more directly challenging people like this poster. Maybe pointing out to him how this Socialist Berserker said similar but different things to one comment within minutes or even seconds of each other might just be the ammo they need to actually call a spade a spade. That said, if they don’t, we have the receipts and we can point to them over and over again every time posters like this one spew this kind of malarkey. :)

Call that out! Report it. If they make it easy for us to see, we should sure call them out on it.

I do think you’ll disappear after election day. If you’re smart and you lose, you should disappear after election day, because we will point out once again, that like the past 59 elections, Third Parties won zip and accomplished zip. But I see you’re looking forward to proving me wrong, and all you have to do is like tag me or some such shit, at which point, I’ll call you a loser and/or a jerk and be done with it, even if the mods remove that post. You see, Mr. IMMA VOTE THIRD PARTY HUR!, my job is to only counter your bull until the election. Once it’s done, I’m done with you, at least until the next election comes up and you start doing Putin’s and Trump’s (or whoever replaces him, hopefully) again. I could literally block you the day after the election and nothing of value would be lost at that point. The only reason I entertain you now is I don’t want anyone buying your bullcrap here. Debunking your constant spew is a full time job, though, which is why I don’t respond to everything you post.

Oh yeah, and I forgot to address the Trump thing. You see, if all you did was vote Third Party, I couldn’t actually call you out because that would be your little secret. But you’re not just planning to vote Third Party. You’re here and presumably other places literally spewing out one post ever 18 or so minutes day in and day out screaming how Third Parties are good. Your third party vote is roughly 1/20,000 of the end result in a swing state. But peddling the BS that you can vote Third Party without concern? That could convince a lot of people. I’m trying to do my part to counter (not shut down, counter) your bull so that people in a close swing state won’t subject everyone in this country, including my Black bisexual pagan goth wife, to Project 2025…

I will never be friends with people who want to subject me and people I care about to Project 2025…

Nah, I’ll just tell you you’ve got a weird obsession if Harris wins, and rightfully point out that you led us to getting Project 2025 with your dumb vote if Trump wins.

Let’s bring this dream into reality and vote.

So…I’m with you. Fascists are bad, and we need to make sure that Fascists can’t hide their fascism when and if we get this country sorted and back on its feet. But I have questions!

• How do we ensure that we only catch Fascists? Your Magatmap seems to require an image, but no description.
• What stops me from cooking up an AI image of somebody I don’t like with Trump flags and swastika arm bands and getting them submitted to your system?
• What happens if this guy was a Trumpet in 2016, but is apologetic about it now and swears he’s no longer a trumpet?
• How do you ensure that innocent people not get caught up in your MAGAt Map?
• What are we supposed to do with the map afterwards?

Liberals have a good reason for questioning your methods here. We don’t want to become what we hate because when you stare into the abyss, the abyss stares into you. We’ve seen it happen time and time again. And those of us who look at your suggestion wonder if we will become Nazis trying to fight Nazis your way.

Doesn’t harm the moneyed interests, so the NSA and the FBI can’t give a single shit about it.

I’m not going to speak on THIS poster, but…

What is this? A bank of phones caught click-farming in Thailand not too long ago. It’s very similar to Chinese and Russian bot farms – a handful of operators who are connected to a metric fuckton of phones, each signed into a fake account with tools to help these bad actors ‘get in character’.

You can usually tell troll farm accounts by their prolific post history. I have a job so I can’t stick around and talk politics all day, but these guys do, so they can literally post once every 18 minutes for over a month, day and night, without any interruptions. You might ask “don’t you have a job that you should be doing?!” when confronted with constant posting, day and night, but the answer is they DO have a job and that’s to push the memes and BS that they are pushing. Another way you can tell? Two replies to the same message – caused by the troll farm employees stepping on each other’s feet, and not properly handing off identitites to each other. Rule 3 says I can’t accuse Socialist Berserker of being one of these troll accounts, but Rule 3 doesn’t prevent me from correctly pointing out that this sort of operation exists, and how you can tell if an individual is a member of this operation. So…make your own minds up.

Thank you for saying this. Come November, one of two people will walk out with the victory: Kamala Harris and Donald Trump. Nobody else. We saw in 2016 and 2020 that the Shitgibbon can get LOTS of votes. We had to put up 7 million more votes than they did to win, and it was STILL close. Vote. Get your friends to vote. Get your friends to get their friends to vote. And help as many strangers who are voting Blue to vote as possible.

Nothing should stop you. Harris got this in the bag? No. She doesn’t. Go vote. Trump’s got no chance to win? No. He does. Go vote. Swifties coming out en masse and you don’t need to worry? No. Trump’s got fans of his own and you should always worry…and go vote. Go vote to counter every useful idiot and Republican Troll and Russian bot out there who has convinced a Greenie to do the stupid thing and vote third party.

Team Red doesn’t deserve sportsmanship. Run that score up nation-wide. Check your registration deadline NOW and check your registration today, and repeat this check at the last day to register to vote. If you don’t show up in the roles, you need to register. Screenshot that too so you have evidence you were registered to vote. Make sure you have your ID ready and understand all the hoops you have to jump through. Numerous organisations exist to help you:

• https://turbovote.org/
• https://www.fvap.gov/
• https://www.democracy.works/
• https://vote.org

Don’t let anything get between you and voting Harris in the upcoming election.

Lols. Persistence pays off, eh?

Oh, you can change your presentation, here, on the Internet, where the Men are Men, the Women are Men, the Children are FBI Agents, of course Socialist Berserker isn’t part of the conclusively proven Russian and Republican mission to siphon away votes from Harris so Trump can steal it, and nobody, and I mean nobody knows I’m a cat? SHOCKED, I tell ya! SHOCKED! 🤣

Fortunately you’re not a moderator and don’t get to say what is and is not allowed. Rule 3 does allow us to say that Muslim Americans, or indeed anyone else, who votes Third Party or stays home as morons. We just can’t call you (and you can’t call us) morons directly.

Dear reader, we got the Shitgibbon in 2017 because a very small fraction of our voters in each of Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania (1.07% in MI, 0.81% in PA, 1.04% in WI) defected to the Green candidate. These states were lost by a narrower margin than the number of voters who voted Stein, allowing Trump to run roughshod over the country for 4 years, being a Russian Asset and damaging the fabric of our nation’s norms, making the place a worse place. It doesn’t take a lot of voters, and yes, I am worried that some Lemmy voters will read the trip this poster is posting and decide to give Stein a chance, like those voters did in 2016.

I can’t call this guy a moron because Rule 3, but I can say ‘if you vote third party in this election with what’s at stake, you’re a fucking moron’ as a general statement. Please make the smart choice. Don’t listen to this … poster.

Oh man, what did you do? I’d LOVE to get blocked by these … people!

Dear reader, look close at this poster’s words. They deliberately misread a statement that I think this poster will disappear after election day, mission successful or not, because after Election Day the die has already been cast. I’m sure they’ll pop back in here, possibly with a new account, starting some time in 2027, assuming we have elections if Trump wins, to spew the same bullshit in order to peel off votes from the Left again so the Right once again has a shot of stealing it and forcing Project 20252028 down our throat. But of course the poster misreads this into believing that I’m trying to get him shut down.

• I have not reported his posts once, despite my clear belief that he’s skirting the rules and is actively reporting us, getting us muzzled for even minor infractions of the rules.
• I do not have the power to make this poster’s posts disappear. Even if I did, I wouldn’t, because this bullshit needs challenging
• In fact, like many other people this poster is attacking, the only thing I’m doing is repeatedly pointing out the visible and glaring flaws in this poster’s reasoning.

Folks, voting third party is stupid. I can say that under Rule 3. If you cast your vote for anyone but Kamala Harris, you are an idiot. I can say that under Rule 3 as well, though it’s a bit murkier as I might be considered as attacking a poster (hopefully the ‘if you do x, you are y’ construct helps). All these Muslim voters falling for the Third Party bullshit are gonna get themselves Project 2025’d right into a concentration camp and are blathering idiots if they do that. I can say that under Rule 3.

Don’t be the blathering idiot by listening to this…poster (yes, I have MUCH stronger words I want to use, but…Rule 3…). If your vote wasn’t important, there wouldn’t be massive operations by Team Red, Team Russki, and Team Useful Idiot to get you to waste it. In the Presidential Election, one of two people will take the Oath of Office next January: Kamala Harris, or Donald Trump. One of them will be another wishy-washy pseudo-Liberal with a long history of toeing the line of American ‘best practice’, who will continue to support Israel, favour corporations when they think they can get away with it, do more lip service to progressive causes than actual action, and use the other party’s bad behaviour as cover for their own. The other will be a hard-core Conservative who will take pride in tearing down Progressive ideals, who will reverse the gains Women, Gays, Minorities, and Transgendered People have made over the past 20 years, who will expel the very Muslims that are complaining about Palestine, who will reset the American ‘best practice’ into something that more resembles North Korea or Russia, who will shut down any criticism of the new normal as ‘woke’, and who has an action plan set to go DAY ONE if he wins that will make this country into a Conservative Nightmare.

Third Parties can’t win. Period. You’d literally have to convince every single Democrat to vote for Jill Stein world wide to get Stein in office with how bitterly divided this country is. Miss 25k voters in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania, and Kamala Harris would be a spoiler for Jill Stein. I know this. You know this. Team Red knows this. Team Russki knows this. Team Useful Idiot knows this. Hell, Mr. Berserker here knows this. Between our antiquated Electoral College and our equally antiquated First Past the Post, NOWHERE in the USA, even Maine and Alaska, is it safe to split your vote. And the consequences for getting this wrong are so high. We warned you in 2016 that if you didn’t hold your nose and vote Clinton, we’d find out how bad Trump really is. Look at 2017 through 2020. Remember the anguish of watching Trump win and the utter Chaos Clown Show that ensued. It was fucking Halloween those entire 4 years, and let’s get frank, Biden’s struggles were directly because of that 4 year Chaos Clown Carnival.

And the Head Chaos Clown himself is back. And much like 2016, the usual suspects are out en force to shove their BS that you shouldn’t pick the lesser evil. Don’t buy the bullshit. Listen to us. You didn’t listen to us (well, them because I was one of you and stayed home after buying Nader’s bullshit about Both Sides Bad…) in 2000 and look what happened. The Afghanistan debacle, the Iraq mistake, Katrina, and one hell of an economic recession laid at the Cowboy Dunce’s feet. You didn’t listen to us in 2016, and look what happened. Scratching Climate Change from the government records, utter chaos, the Afghanistan retreat debacle (this is on Trump, Biden just followed the agreed upon plan on the notion that ripping the bandaid off was a good idea), the completely chaotic mishandling of the pandemic including firing the pandemic team ahead of time, and the resulting economic malaise, and the constant Chaos Clown Circus. Don’t make those mistakes again. Because Trump has promised us it will be worse this time.

If you live in Maine or Alaska, you can pick Third Party candidates for everything but President. The Electoral College still requires you to pick Harris if you don’t want Trump. But everything below? Your vote for the Green or Socialist or Constitution or Libertarian candidate won’t result in the Chaos Clown getting in as long as you mark the Democrat above the Republican in your ranking. Hell, mark the Libertarian, Green, and/or Socialist above the Dem on your ballot, as long as the Dem is marked above the Rep in your ranking. That’ll ensure the Chaos Clown Circus is not allowed to set up in 2025.

Thanks for reading!

Yeah, we have to play nice because Rule 3 compels us. It sure seems like Rule 3 is cover and protection for these posters and a kugel to silence our criticisms of them. But the best wordsmiths among us can still call these posters out while staying in the letter of Rule 3, even if not the spirit. Thanks for calling out this poster’s nonsense for what it is, lies designed to get Trump elected.

Good for you! Why don’t you head over there. A little echo chamber of your own creation, waiting for you to diss the Dems as much as you want without me coming to fact-check you or call you out on your bullshit. And you’re even welcoming to Republicans! Not that any of that was a surprise to me because you’re busy doing the Republicans’ jobs for them over here.

But know this. I’m not going to try to shut you down or shut you up here. I’ve like only reported a single post of your ilk over here, and that was for calling Dems murderers and genociders while getting my posts shut down. I’m just going to call you on your bullshit every time I see it. That’s it. Have a nice day.