http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/chew
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There was a fairly intricate debate on an early version of this posted to bluesky, the contention being over whether OR was sufficient. I think the ORs have it, but XOR is a funnier word, so there.
Bonus panel
In the English language “or” is equivalent to the Boolean “xor”. The English equivalent to the Boolean “or” is “and/or”.
Only sometimes. English is very much not so consistent.
Example: If I’m asked “Do you want fries with that? Or a shake?” It’s perfectly reasonable* for me to respond with “Both please.”
(*Linguistically, not so reasonable for my health.)
Just respond like logic operators expect you to
Yes
Yeah in this instance “yes” would cover both and if you want to answer with either specific then you name them
“fries, thanks, no shake”
“a shake please, yes”
Those all seems clear to me
Edit although if you just answer “yes” the cashier should prolly confirm “both?”, if he’s a pro.
“Either A or B” is a much less confusing xor.
But even logically it is an and. He came to do both, the logic statement won’t comply until he has done both, nowhere there is he saying that he is going to do both at the same time, only that his intention, by the end, is to have done both.
If he fulfills his intentions, he will have chewed bubblegum and kicked ass by the time he leaves, but that’s again up for interpretation because he didn’t specify if he’s capable for either or any kind of timeframe.
…I did take a course on what’s basically advanced logic in 4th year of CS. I believe we proved up until exponentials via logic proofs, based on some basic axioms like 1+1 and number ordering.
It’s fun to logically prove that 2 + 3 = 5 from the basic symbols 1 and +.
i came here to chew bubblegum and kick ass.
this is the correct order of intended actions if this is meant as a citation.
Not if they’re citing Duke Nukem, which is probably more well known for the phrase at this point than They Live.
I admit I had to look it up, but Duke Nukem, in a horrible misquote/steal said: “It’s time to kick ass and chew bubblegum. And I’m all out of gum.” So not only did he get the order of actions wrong, but messed with the opening as well :D
Also I thought Duke Nukem never released!!
I’ll choose to ignore your ignorance of the cultural icon that is Duke Nukem.
However, I submit the KnowYourMeme page as evidence that the cited version is well known at this point in our history: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/im-here-to-kick-ass-and-chew-bubblegum
as per your link:
Origin While many believe the quote originated from the video game Duke Nukem 3D, it actually comes from the 1988 movie
so I guess you’ll supply more evidence.
[or] what are you waiting for? Christmas?
I know and never debated the origin of the phrase. I was providing evidence that the order used in the comic is well known itself and not a misquote as indicated by your initial comment.
The quote is from Duke Nukem 3D. The very very delayed game was Duke Nukem Forever.
“Is your dog male or female?”
“Yes”
I came to kick gum and eat ass. And I’m all out of gum.
Stupid alt text stole my comment.
This logic would still be propositional as there are no quantifiers.
