• Saledovil@sh.itjust.works
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    3 months ago

    I’ve contacted them yesterday evening. Funnily enough, all the AfD opposes chat control. They’re clever. If chat control were to pass, they could campaign on having opposed it, and then mission creep it once elected.

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      3 months ago

      the EU commission is absolutely dumb and definitely not on the side of the people though. by the way, it’s also not democratically elected.

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      3 months ago

      There are no “good guys” or “bad guys” in geopolitics, just shades of grey. On quite a few topics, the EU is better, but any government is capable of doing stupid shit.

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      3 months ago

      No, the EU is just as much liberal capitalism as the US. They have a better social safety net and looked better in comparison.

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    3 months ago

    One point of hope is that they mandated cross platform chat compatibility too, and every platform is just… Ignoring it and not doing it with zero consequences.

    Maybe this just also won’t happen.

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      Feeling hopeful about giant tech companies ignoring attempts to reign them in is unwise, even when it occasionally lines up with something you personally want. And I even say that as someone with permanent distrust of the big power structures doing the regulating.

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      Of course chat control would be practically infeasible. But it’s not even about that. It’s about the simple fact that the EU commission ignores the will of the people, when the people have already clearly said NO. It’s about the disrespect that the EU commission exerts against the people. That in itself is unacceptable.

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    This is the worst thing in ages. I’m 50+, very good with IT, and I understand that we MUST act against it.

    But I’m tired, boss.

    Surrounded by lemmings and sheep that love Facebook and WhatsApp. People are stupid. I don’t have the energy to fight so much ignorance and stupidity - willful or otherwise.

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      3 months ago

      I’m overwhelmed by this stupidity and collective ignorance all the time. Not just in data privacy regards.

      Some days I just want to give up and say “screw it”. But damn, I can’t. And a lot of others will not stop. If you do, thats alright, it is okay to rest.

    • 0x0@lemmy.zip
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      3 months ago

      The provided link will let you contact MPs with just a few lazy clicks.

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        You know what though, when encryption was first developed in the form of pgp, the whole point was that it was to sidestep the government being able to spy on you.

        Perhaps we just need to accept that we need to take encrypted communication into our own hands and not rely on messaging apps to protect us

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          The issue came down to ease of usability. PGP simply wasn’t plug-and-play, hell it wasn’t even easy to set up. And most importantly, it absolutely depended on the other person having the same configuration.

          As messaging platforms like Signal has shown, security and encryption needs to be transparent and unnoticeable. It needs to be totally frictionless and thinking-free in order for the average Joe to want to use it.

          And that is even before other issues such as platform stickiness, which Signal has issues with.

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    I’m not an EU citizen yet, and as a non-citizen brown man, i doubt the MEP would listen to me. How can I do my part anyway?

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        3 months ago

        According to constitutions of member states.
        At least here it’s worded in a way that chat control could be argued as unconstitutional (not a lawyer tho).

        I would not be surprised that any other sane constitution protects privacy, and by extension digital correspondence, under fundamental rights.

    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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      In germany, it’s not technically unconstitutional (i checked last week because i assumed it should be) but it definitely feels like it should be unconstitutional. After WW2, there was a consensus to not surveil your own population, and this is a very important constraint to keep in mind.

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        In Lithuania privacy is defined as a fundamental right and it includes correspondence, digital or otherwise.

        Would that prevent passing laws enabling chat control? Doubt it, but I can see it as a good legal argument against it.

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      There seems to be some kind of group repeatedly pushing this crap every other year, with increasingly shady tactics.

      I would for sure like to know from where this emanates…

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    This is why Russian, Chinese and other messaging apps (good one is Telegram) are spiking in EU. The kremlin will have my chats, but I never plan on travelling to Russia anyways.

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    3 months ago

    If it passes in the EU, it will pass in the United States. This affects all of us.

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    Any Dutch people here? Follow nerdvote.nl, to help decide who to vote for this election. They are suggesting technical minded people should unite and form a block in elections, so that parties will try to cater to us. If you want our vote, come up with plans an proposals to create digital sovereignty and freedom. As a member of PVDA/GL I am probably voting Barbara Kathmann , as she is fighting for digital sovereignty. Without preferential votes she probably won’t make it in so your preferential vote matters!