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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/45730883
With more than 80,000 AI-powered cameras across the U.S., Flock Safety has become one of cops’ go-to surveillance tools and a $7.5 billion business. Now CEO Garrett Langley has both police tech giant Axon and Chinese drone maker DJI in his sights on the way to his noble (if Sisyphean) goal: Preventing all crime in the U.S.
In a windowless room inside Atlanta’s Dunwoody police department, Lieutenant Tim Fecht hits a button and an insectile DJI drone rises silently from the station rooftop. It already has its coordinates: a local mall where a 911 call has alerted the cops to a male shoplifter. From high above the complex, Fecht zooms in on a man checking his phone, then examines a group of people waiting for a train. They’re all hundreds of yards away, but crystal clear on the room-dominating display inside the department’s crime center, a classroom-sized space with walls covered in monitors flashing real- time crime data—surveillance and license plate reader camera feeds, gunshot detection reports, digital maps showing the location of cop cars across the city. As more 911 calls come in, AI transcribes them on another screen. Fecht can access any of it with a few clicks.
Twenty minutes down the road from Dunwoody, in an office where Flock Safety’s cameras and gunshot detectors are arrayed like museum pieces, 38-year-old CEO and cofounder Garrett Langley presides over the $300 million (estimated 2024 sales) company responsible for it all. Since its founding in 2017, Flock, which was valued at $7.5 billion in its most recent funding round, has quietly built a network of more than 80,000 cameras pointed at highways, thoroughfares and parking lots across the U.S. They record not just the license plate numbers of the cars that pass them, but their make and distinctive features—broken windows, dings, bumper stickers. Langley estimates its cameras help solve 1 million crimes a year. Soon they’ll help solve even more. In August, Flock’s cameras will take to the skies mounted on its own “made in America” drones. Produced at a factory the company opened earlier this year near its Atlanta offices, they’ll add a new dimension to Flock’s business and aim to challenge Chinese drone giant DJI’s dominance.
Langley offers a prediction: In less than 10 years, Flock’s cameras, airborne and fixed, will eradicate almost all crime in the U.S. (He acknowledges that programs to boost youth employment and cut recidivism will help.) It sounds like a pipe dream from another AI-can-solve- everything tech bro, but Langley, in the face of a wave of opposition from privacy advocates and Flock’s archrival, the $2.1 billion (2024 revenue) police tech giant Axon Enterprise, is a true believer. He’s convinced that America can and should be a place where everyone feels safe. And once it’s draped in a vast net of U.S.-made Flock surveillance tech, it will be.
I’ll believe it when they catch a McDonald’s manager shorting his employees’ wages.
The only way you could actually come close to eliminating all crime would be if you eliminated poverty. But that would make the rich less rich, so not gonna happen.
Or if you just kept everyone in a closely monitored prison so that only people above the law could commit crimes without fear of consequences.
Like in China there isn’t really much of an issue with petty theft anymore bc people are afraid of getting caught, but corruption is through the fucking roof. Just not a crime you would be punished for bc it requires a position of power to commit it in the first place
Yup, just like how wage theft is an order of magnitude or two bigger problem than petty theft and shoplifting, but they just ignore it or even worse legalize / normalize it.
I’d like to focus the existance on J. Epstein, D. Trump and the concept of wage theft to illustrate my point of poverty and crime not being inherently related.
Eliminating poverty will help reduce some crimes- those of need- but those of greed or malice will be unimpeded.
If money was no object there would be a lot less poor people selling their kids to human traffickers
Thats why I said “come close” - there are plenty of crimes committed by the ultra wealthy.
However, those aren’t the kind of crimes this kind of mass surveillance is targeting either. They are trying to get rid of petty crime, gang violence, theft… stuff like that. And those kinds of crimes would almost dissapear entirely if you eliminated poverty.
This is just an ad for obvious bullshit. Forbes may as well be running articles about how ozempic is done because of this one weird trick a local veteran discovered.
There’s just not much coverage (probably intentionally) but I wanted to post about it bc the only other recent story I could find was this one and didn’t know if it would be deleted for not being a typical news source
I wonder how they intend to tackle white collar crime.
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Ah yes… Pre-crime… Just like all those utopian sci-fi novels.
How to stop crime in America in one easy step: lose all laws. Runnerup solution: hold wealthy accountable to existing laws and remove loopholes for the elite, allowing wealth inequality to balance and improve access to education and basic human needs. One to me seems more practical, but I’d bet that many see both as equally horrible solutions.
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They’re going to build a society in which all basic needs such as access to food, water, education, housing, and health care are provided to all people making the need for most crime unnecessary???
That would actually be cheaper than what they’re trying to do.
Anyone have any intel on how well these cameras hold up against buckshot?
I’m just as curious about the drones. Do they have a ‘stop-and-hover’ mode if you jam them temporarily, or do they set down? As to the cameras, well… it’s a nice fantasy that you’d get away with it, but unless there’s a civil war going on, you’re going to be caught shooting buckshot at them. That’s what they’re truly trying to build, and they’ve gotten there if they can monitor your car from nearly at your home until you leave it (the car), track you walking to wherever you commit the crime and back to your car, then track you as you drive away until you get nearly home.
Oh I agree that you won’t be able to fire your shotgun in a large urban area, but if you’re someplace less densely populated I can imagine being able to drive up from behind in the middle of the night…
It’s too bad there isn’t an easier way to deal with this problem, especially in the instances where the cameras are being installed without consent.
Akin to having foreign adversaries set up a spy network within our borders, and instead of being punished for it, many law enforcement agencies are choosing to buy the subscription plan!
I looked at the map of known cameras in my area, and I think I could take many of them out. Especially if a drone with spray paint is available. The issue is that those are the known ones, and there are plenty of cameras or license plate readers that aren’t from flock. I know for a fact that when my neighbor went missing in 2020/2021, they tried to find him using license plate readers, and those weren’t flocks, I’d bet. Plus you have just the regular surveillance cameras that a lot of businesses have, and we now know that police can put in work when it’s a big money person’s interests on the line, like with the uhc ceo and, in this case palantir’s deep pockets.
It’s too bad there isn’t a way to use something like a flipper zero to compromise the cameras and simply disable them, or insert malicious video files into their network…
No people, no crimes. Should I be concerned?
Are you people?
I’m not legally allowed to say yes.
glances at white house
might wana start with that… 👀
34x convicted but not sentenced criminal in there.
Does that include the content theft used to train the AI models?
It did in the Alpha stages, but when they turned it on, it destroyed itself.
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Flock? Or other models? Cuz I don’t think they’re training license plate OCR via scraping Reddit posts.
“All crime in America” should cover content theft by any other model creator.
Of course not
I want to see the camera that will stop white-collar crime.
That’s kind of the point. Only target crime by poor brown people as they can’t afford lawyers.
Try putting a surveillance system in a corporate boardroom and see how that goes over.
Sounds like a flock of shit to me.
that picture looks like a master race advertisement.







