• bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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        I think the big difference would be that under this you’d probably be working for next to nothing to enrich Monsanto or something, whereas under a Socialist system these would be public lands owned by the people, do be distributed to the people.

        Having the military do farm work/construction is also pretty common in those kind of countries too.

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      And not even smart. Farming today is sonething you have to train at and want / need to do. Grab 100 people that have never farmed before and set them loose in a field to find out how quickly crops burn.

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        What are you on about? I’ve done potato truck driving for a season when I was depressed and needed something else to do for a while. There’s a lot of low/no skill work on farms that people can do. With just a few people who know what they’re doing (and I definitely wasn’t in that camp), the crops aren’t going to be burning in the field. I don’t think anyone is advocating grabbing people, plopping them in a field and saying “here, farm this”.

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    Nationalized industry that always produces food at cost and pays all of its workers well and fairly would be a great idea so long as the people setting it up aren’t completely untrustworthy fucks.

    Oh wait

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    I’m all for it. Just like Canada needs to ween itself from America’s corporate tit, citizens need to step up to make this happen. Too often money is used as an excuse to not do something, when it can be done.

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    That picture looks like a tobacco field, which is a dangerous crop to pick. Americans would quit immediately if forced to pick their own.

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    Under this plan, would the farms be nationalized, or would people be forced to work for the profit of private farm owners?

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    Don’t get caught wearing glasses around maga… Wouldn’t wanna get called a “reader”

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    We are not slaves. Fuck off. If your business can’t survive, then you go out of business.

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      Yeah it’s a good idea until you consider that the ‘business’ feeds your nation. You’re not talking about airlines being bailed out etc.

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              I don’t know where you live and I don’t care to educate you. I’ve given you the seed, go have a look if you’re so sure of yourself.

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                If all you can provide is a seed, how can I trust it’s worth the effort, cost and risk of growing?

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                  You asked, I answered. I don’t care if you do or don’t, that’s your problem.

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      But think of the exposure you’ll get!

      • Exposure to sunburn
      • Exposure to insect bites
      • Exposure to the elements
      • Exposure to pesticides and agriculture chemicals
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      Hell back in HS we got first shot at detasseling corn and deroguing beans. I lasted a day, some boys lasted a few. By the time they brought in the mexicans a week later, there would be maybe 2 of the scariest foodball players left, and they did make decent money by the end of their little stint.

      Your average person is going to get heatstroke from this.

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        Seen it. Down south, knew a guy who did any kind of odd job. Work hard, play hard, antiracist. Lasted like two days picking strawberries.

        Honestly the job could be less hard. The employee assult issues are really bad, and only a couple little nonprofts are trying to address it. Mostly supply chain advocacy, with migratory/poc employees in leadership.

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    This is what MAO did during the cultural revolution. Intellectuals and ‘professionals’ got sent to work in the communes. Hard to believe that MAGAts are asking for commmnist policies, but then the Kirk thing has surprised me in terms of the policies they want now. Since Kirks policies are no longer acceptable?

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      Though the goals were different. Intellectuals weren’t sent from their labor, they were sent to get re-educated because Mao thought they were too bougie.

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      They nationalized Intel for chrissakes (ok, partially) and are or have done the same with TikTok. It’s like they’re doing a bass ackwards play at the horshoe theory. Anything to avoid the middle at Capitalist Socialism.

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        i think supporting intel was a mistake. intel produces cutting-edge chips, unlike ARM which is significantly cheaper and catching on to intel performance-wise.

        Basically, intel can’t continue because they’re at their natural end of life: with the end of moore’s law, it’s only a matter of time till ARM catches up performance-wise, and out-competes them on price.

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          with the end of moore’s law, it’s only a matter of time till ARM catches up performance-wise, and out-competes them on price.

          I’m not so sure about that, at least in single-thread applications, but I’m also not sure it matters. When performance reaches a certain point the average consumer doesn’t really need more. And I think we’ve largely reached that point for the average consumer.

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      It makes sense when you understand that MAGA doesn’t really have a ideological base. They are a group of people pissed off on the economic prospects of their lives without having any real understanding on how to fix it.

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        When you choose your words, you can get a MAGA to be 1000% aggreeable on the “libtard” views they rail against every day. I do it every day and I’m not exaggerating.

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            People deep in MAGA usually focus on words or phrases as bad, not going deep into the ideas of it. If you can discuss something without bringing up those words or phrases, you can probably get them to agree to something.