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    I want the executives to come out now and say “look this was an honest mistake, we’re terribly sorry we let it appear that we continue to support and bend the knee to a dictator.”

    Then watch as all the people who cancelled Disney+ and Hulu not give a flying fuck.

    The freedom of speech, is arguably the most important right we have. Without it? We have no rights. The second amendment becomes useless. The third becomes useless. There becomes no point in having the fourth. The fifth becomes unusable. The sixth becomes needless effort. The seventh is pointless, as then double jeopardy can just be said it ISNT double jeopardy because the government says so and your arguments against it are illegal speech. 8 and 9 pretty much mean you can’t voice opinions that would affect those two. And 10 can no longer be argued against the executive.

    Trump and ABC, in my mind, crossed a line that they were foolish to cross before they had concrete power. They have too much power now, but they do not have nearly enough to squash the entire country in opposition.

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    I never cared that much about Kimmel, but I deeply cared about the government silencing him through company coercion.

    I guess the C suite folks miscalculated people giving a shit about the First Amendment.

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    Oh, I’m sure they expected backlash, but they had a choice between the public’s wrath and trump’s wrath, and like good little cowardly capitulators, they chose pleasing trump over standing up for their (and all of our) first amendment rights.

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      What they still don’t realize is they chose pleasing Trump FOR NOW. He will never be truly satisfied and will ask for more and more until he’s finally dead. Nothing has ever been enough for him. And these dumbasses are playing right into it.

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    Seriously? Fucking how did they not expect this? These companies were already facing a festering hatred for the past several years, how on earth could they claim to be surprised? Come on, these executives are idiots, but they aren’t stupid.

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      Yeah, that alone seems like justification to fire anyone involved. They thought they’d just blatantly bow to regime censorship and no one would care? This didn’t go through 5 levels of fretting about the blowback before deciding it was a lose-lose situation and just hoping they were making the right choice?

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    Too late bitches.

    I’ll never pay to watch anything Disney ever again.

    I’ll watch it.

    But I’m not paying for it.

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    They can’t bring him back because they don’t want to piss of Tump.

    They can’t keep him off air and not lose paying customers.

    There is no fixing this. They made their choice, now suffer the consequences.

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      They can’t bring him back because they don’t want to piss of Tump.

      Everything else is inconsequential. This is the essence of the problem. We’re not supposed to be living in a country where anyone should be afraid to make fun of or piss off the president. He’s not a king and he’s not an emperor. He is a replaceable employee of the government.

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        Fun fact: the countries to the north end east of the USA have a king, the countries to the south and west used to have a king and an emperor (respectively).

        You’ll notice that none of them are overrun with tyrants.

        In fact, most of the English speaking world shares a king, and many, many countries have a royal family who have bumbled along happily for centuries.

        We think it’s deeply weird when one world leader is doing his very best to piss off everyone except Russia, deliberately destabilising the environment, the global media, all the agreements that every other country is working together on, and his citizens are split between those who support him and those who keep saying ‘this reminds me of how much I hate kings. No offense to the foundational identities of all our neighbours except Russia, but I can’t imagine sinking so low as to tolerate a king’.

        Like, dude, watch your own kids before you bitch about everyone else’s. How does someone train an entire nation so well that they express displeasure at the flagrant atrocities of their president and say ‘fuck other countries and their shitty systems’.

        It’s honestly like living next to someone who keeps playing their music too loud and throwing rubbish into your garden and every now and again he stands on your garden yelling about how much he hates your begonias. It wouldn’t be so bad if it was a sensible criticism, or something political, but it’s so random you waste a surprising amount of energy being offended on behalf of your begonias before realising, every time, that neither of you probably specifically care about the begonias. It’s the shouting.

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    Just a reminder: Freedom of speech is more important than a TV show.

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      Very much so. It’s critical we sustain this pressure until the fascists cave. Don’t give them an inch.

      Edit: 25.4 mm for our allies abroad. Thanks friends :-)

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        Disney is a massive machine always crunching numbers and making predictions, it doesn’t matter what short-term dips and peaks and whatever political points they score for either side, they have calculated their margins out to like, the year 2300.

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      Thank you, I am so goddamn sick of these pandering headlines that are published simultaneously as the opposite spin which is algorithmically sent to right-wing viewers.

      We have to start figuring this shit out as a society or we’re sunk. For every headline that makes you feel a thing, there is a counterpart headline being circulated on the other side that makes them feel the same thing. Nothing can be trusted, everything is being made up to increase views and engagement and division.

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      Yep. They knew exactly what was going to happen and calculated that this is the best option.

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      Outcome predictions probably came from a room filled with bean counters at the behest of a soulless wraith in a suit saying that profits would be maximized because 51% of subscribers would continue buying Disney+. But now they’re realizing that the blatant 1A violation profits were slightly below the 50% margin so they’re all shitting their pants trying to fix the fuckup that came about because people aren’t robots and MAGA cultists are less of their demographic than they’d anticipated.

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        I mean, I’m pretty sure that Disney makes at least a little money outside the USA. I’m willing to bet that there are at least 2 other countries whose subscribers won’t all cancel their subscriptions because the American political shitshow has touched upon a person they’ve never heard of (source: I’m in an English speaking country where people have Disney+ and watch Disney films and as far as I know, virtually nobody has heard of this guy and virtually everybody has exhausted their supply of ‘wtf is the USA doing, surely they can’t get away with that’ for the year).

        So unless you honestly think that the entire American user base is going to cancel - which seems wildly unlikely, given the political scene - AND that the number of Americans with subscriptions is at least equal to the number of subscribers outside the USA, then sorry bud, you aren’t going to defeat fascism by pausing your Disney+ subscription for a few months.

        It’s a great start, and I personally think it’s healthy to ethically curate one’s free time where possible, but when October rolls around and Disney is still solvent, don’t throw up your hands and say you gave it your best shot but the fight is clearly hopeless. You guys have let your corporations run unchecked for decades, if you want them to suddenly find a moral compass you need to settle in for a long game.

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        A company that size makes predictions in terms of years and decades, this is barely going to be a margin-note in their long term plans.

        I am shocked how much people underestimate huge organizations.

        If you want this to actually surprise them, we need to do something that will actually surprise them, like not get bored with the entire story in 4 months time.

        spoiler: everyone is going to get bored within weeks.

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          A company that size makes predictions in terms of years and decades

          But shareholders always want money NOW.

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          A company that size makes predictions in terms of years and decades

          The company at large might, but I wouldn’t underestimate the stupidity of smaller divisions having problems if a single decision saw immediate financial backlash. I don’t think you’re wrong, but I also think companies often do stupid shit.

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      I think they barely cared, and still don’t care. It barely constitutes a footnote.

      “A larger amount of subscribers will ‘churn’ this month and we have reason to believe most will be back to watch the next season of Andor.”

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          The ending of Andor was so good that I haven’t been able to watch another show. It followed through and paid off on every single thread with brilliant performances from everyone involved. It will be a generation before we get something so we’ll made again.

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    If as a result people start gaining some consumer intelligence and instead of supporting the technofascist they start buying small and independent that would make this whole thing worth it.