Gunman opens fire at Michigan church and sets it ablaze, killing at least 4 and wounding 8
apnews.com
The shooting happened Sunday at The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc, about 50 miles north of Detroit.
    • pleaseletmein@lemmy.zip
      23·
      4 months ago

      His brother’s girlfriend’s cousin’s barber once liked a photo of a trans person’s cat on instagram. Case. Fucking. Closed.

    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
      10·
      4 months ago

      I shit you not, they’re saying he was against trump because he had his trump/pence sign hanging on his fence visible in proximity to a stop sign.
      Also, some people have pointed out that a “T Sanford” is a donor to the “BLUE ORIGIN LLC PAC”, which is obviously a democratic PAC, and not the lobbying group for the private space flight company Blue Origin LLC, who coincidentally has a Tommy Sanford as their sales director. Because people never have the same name.

  • SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one
    43·
    4 months ago

    My Mormon mother died about a month ago.

    Pity, I cant shove this in her face as evidence that her bigoted dogma was always hypocritical.

  • jve@lemmy.worldEnglish
    25·
    4 months ago

    The FBI is leading the investigation and considered it an “act of targeted violence,” said Ruben Coleman, a special agent in charge for the bureau.

    Thank goodness it wasn’t a terrorist attack!

  • Seth Taylor@lemmy.world
    22·
    4 months ago

    I bet they weren’t happy when that guy knocked on their door.

    (I know, I know, terrible joke, but someone had to say it)

  • WindyRebel@lemmy.world
    552·
    4 months ago

    Admittedly did not read the article yet. This is my prediction:

    Willing to put money on this being a conservative that is getting revenge on Mormons because of the Kirk killing being in Utah.

    • sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      7·
      4 months ago

      My guess is the dude had some kind of a massive crash out after an argument with his wife.

      I come from white trash.

      I know how this tends to work.

      That being said: total guess, in the sense that I do not have any actual evidence to back up or corroborate this idea.

      I will though note that it is odd that… well, with Kirk’s shooter, we hear all about and from family members and roommates/partners, anyone related to the person… because everyone wants this info so as to attempt to create a narrative/motive, whether trying to do this objectively or in an obviously biased way.

      This guy?

      Maybe I’ve missed it but I’ve not seen or heard a single mention of any LE contacting his family or media outlets getting any statements from amybody he knew.

      But this also has not stopped a good chunk of right wing people from doing the most pathetically transparent motivated reasoning I’ve seen in a while.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      222·
      4 months ago

      Hey, let’s maybe wait a bit before even reading anything this time. AP itself is quite trustworthy IMO, but the sources themselves often aren’t - AP reports what it finds out, but they get their data from police, FBI, etc - not a single link in the chain is infallible, which is why it’s best to wait till a bit more is known.

      With the Kirk shooter, first he was trans, then he was a groyper, and then later on it turned out he has a trans girlfriend and he was sick of the hate Kirk was spewing. Hell, maybe even THAT isn’t the final version. The first one was super comfy for conservatives to believe, the second version was super comfy for the left to believe, and the final version… Honestly again, sounds a bit too convenient. So we’ll see.

      • grysbok@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        4·
        4 months ago

        The first shooting I remember was the Heath High School shooting in 1997. Things haven’t been ok for a long time

      • Signtist@bookwyr.meEnglish
        29·
        4 months ago

        The fact that when you say “Columbine” we immediately know you’re talking about the shooting at Columbine means that it was noteworthy enough to not be a regular occurrence then. Same with Sandy Hook. Nowadays we don’t even question why anymore, and few people would recognize the Evergreen school shooting that happened a couple weeks ago from the name of the school alone.

    • commander@lemmy.world
      9·
      4 months ago

      I don’t remember the last time I’ve seen the Las Vegas massacre sometime in the last 10 years was mentioned. A huge amount of people died then and I don’t think many people remember it at all

  • notsure@fedia.io
    95·
    4 months ago

    …remind me again how this person was certified to own a firearm?..

      • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
        42·
        4 months ago

        At this time there’s nothing in the man’s history that would lead anyone to believe that he couldn’t be trusted. He was a husband and a father. He was a U.S. Marine (served 04-08) and he had no criminal history. He likely would have passed any 1st world ownership test.

        No idea what happened to the guy to make him do this but I’m sure it will come out eventually.

    • Buelldozer@lemmy.today
      8·
      4 months ago

      …remind me again how this person was certified to own a firearm?..

      U.S. Marine - Iraq War Veteran (04-08) with high qualifications on the rifle range and no criminal record. Husband and a father. Gainfully employed.

      So why would you disqualify this person in advance based on that history?

  • mean_bean279@lemmy.worldEnglish
    363·
    4 months ago

    I know a lot of good Mormon people/friends and the ones I’m around are such wonderful people. My heart hurts for them and my thoughts are with their community during this time. How sad.

    Someone reported they were in the building right after the first call and mentioned there were 4 canvasses covering people and the cops said it would grow. So I suspect this is an early count before they get to the burned section.

    • The_v@lemmy.world
      344·
      4 months ago

      Mormons generally come in two flavors: wonderful people taken advantage of by a cult and absolute scum who utilize the cult to abuse others. So here’s hoping the shooter got some of the abusers.

      The more likely target is of course kids because of Sunday School.