The old guys message wasn’t working anymore, the age of Pharos and godkings was done. You couldn’t just mass execute people anymore, everyone was really woke and PC.
The ruling class needed to revamp the religious arm of the machine that enslaves us all to get with the times or there were going to keep being problems.
You know how corporate media are, it’s easier to sell a sequel.
You know what, we’re going for a kind of apple vibe, we’re literally just going to call this thing “THE BOOK”.
Everyone will step into line after we nail a few to boards and stuff
The old guys message wasn’t working anymore
The new testament is just old testament fan fiction. By that reasoning all these newer religions like Mormonism are fan fiction based on other fan fiction… and Im sure I dont have to tell anyone how loony tunes Mormonism is.
Actually if you read the book of revelations jesus sends the whole planet to hell except 7 cities that he told people to go to. he really lays into the sinners.
PR mandated rebranding
Because god was pregnant with jesus so she was all crazy lol
Because the God of the old testament is the demiurge…
Sorry, I couldn’t help myself
And Christ died in the cross to teach us (only those who have a fragment of the divine) how to ascend to perfection and get out of the Demiurge’s hand. Btw, those who don’t have a fragment of the divine are just NPC (just like myself who am also an NPC)
There are more than a few disrespectful answers here, but if any of these ppl talked to someone who honestly believed, they’d be more inclined to tell you to investigate the new covenant
Am a Christian atheist ftr–just feels bad to see so many accept convenient lies over the honest truths of a worthwhile series of stories (wether they factually happened is of little to no value in the pursuit of truth, no?)
Just to clarify - so you don’t believe in any of the supernatural stuff and are just about the better teachings of Jesus? Aka a Jefferson bible take?
you don’t believe in any of the supernatural stuff
Correct. It feels beyond a little silly to pretend there is any kind of entity in control or overlooking the unfolding of events that is reality or what we mean by reality. I will admit, the ‘god in process’ theories are fun and maybe insightful to some degree but nothing worth putting faith in just yet.
are just about the better teachings of Jesus? Aka a Jefferson bible take?
I’ve heard of this, but I just now researched it. Seems interesting, but it is certainly not what I’m speaking to at all afaict
Full disclosure Im an atheist. The answer ive been given before is something along the lines of ‘after jesus died and did his whole thing, part of the deal with jesus dying is now mankind and god enter into a “new testament” and now the new one supersedes the old one’, but thats a very rough paraphrasing.
How any of this makes any sense is beyond me. God killed himself for himself to have himself stop hating us…?
How any of this makes any sense is beyond me
In religions nothing makes sense and thats the entire point. All religions are a basically a gullibility test, and they only want the ones who Fail that test to be in their cult. Its been like this for thousands of years.
Jesus was the OG Nigerian Prince!
There’s a Jesus quote about specifically this. Here’s the first search result.
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished” (Matthew 5:17–18).
That’s the convenient quote that conservatives can point to when they still want to enforce old testament shit. For instance, claiming to follow Leviticus when they’re being homophobic, rather than going with their homeboy’s forgiveness and loving the sinner.
So Jesus was a Jew, who didn’t want to change for things are done, so halal/Jewish food laws should still apply to Christians?
Yo put the bacon down you heathens!
Also shellfish and that 30% cotton 70% polyester shirt!
Right right!
Fiction usually has highs and lows. Unfortunately all the authors wrote under pseudonyms, and multiple editors went through the plagiarized stories, some books were left out, and the consistency is just a mess. Not to mention the terrible translations. Your local Library most certainly has better Fiction books that are very well written and highly entertaining.
God a bitch
its almost like the whole thing is an amalgam of thousands of texts edited and repurposed across thousands of years by human beings with various motivations.
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And yet they persist, so it’s almost like it’s not quite that simple either, eh? Funny how the devil stays in the details, no matter which side you lean
absolutely correct. humans have been scamming humans since inception, and the best methods last the longest.
The religion of the Israelites wasn’t even monotheistic at first. Yahweh was one of many gods.
source?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yahweh
You should have just looked this up yourself. It’s going to be the first result in most search engines.
wikipedia isn’t a source
Then check the sources listed under that wiki article.
If you couldn’t be bothered to look up something as simple and undisputed as this, then it’s really silly to make a stand with “Wikipedia isn’t a source”, it just makes you look like a bad troll.
What do you mean “undisputed”. The whole pantheon thing is a historical reconstructed theory, not a fact. You’d find millions of people who’d dispute a claim as absurd as pre-messianic Judaism not originally being monotheistic.
Now yes, the israelites have practiced polytheism several times. The Bible records this. But the Christian religion has always been monotheistic.
Yep, undisputed. Except by religious zealots who resort to bad faith arguments when some of their cultist beliefs are not accepted as fact by non believers, but on those subjects, those people aren’t taken seriously by anyone except others from their cult, so yes, pretty much undisputed.
wikipedia isn’t a source
Sorry professor
And Christianity isn’t technically monotheistic either, as it has the trinity of God, Christ, and the Spooky Spirit… errrm… I mean Holy Ghost.
And trinitarianism specifically is basically just a reason to wage wars. I was raised in a trinitarian denomination and I still mostly consider myself Christian but I can’t reconcile my morals with waging literal wars over fucking metaphysics.
It really is tho. The 3 are the same thing. Different parts/names of one entity. Probably wasn’t originally, but def is now
Depending on the exact denomination of Christian. There is no big difference between how many christians view satan and how polytheistic religions view some of the less nice gods.
“That’s Modalism, Patrick!”
Loved that video until I looked at some of the creators other videos.
Does not make sense to me, but that bit was not doctrine until 350 ad.
Also, he was a war god.
source?
Wikipedia isn’t a source
Sloth is a sin
So some guy has an alternative theory
but no evidence of pre-Israelite Yahweh worship among the peoples of the ancient Levant has surfaced
That’s because the israelites were the worshippers of Yahweh
Wikipedia is a source of sources. You can scroll down to the bottom of the damn page and view the original sources if you really need the originals. No, you’re just using this as an excuse. Fuck off. Everyone can see right through this.
Wikipedia is policed by radical jobless atheists like tgeorgescu who deliberately delete Christian sources
The book of Job is literally written in different parts in entirely different dialects that were spoken hundreds of years apart. The opening and ending is from the older dialect, and written much like a folktale. The middle is newer and written much more like an epic poem.
Even the a single book of the Bible comes from numerous sources.
God became terrified of us after the tower of babel, so he told his minions to write the new testament in a more positive way, so we wouldn’t seek to invade his realm and take control over creation in revenge for the atrocities he did to us.
Not the same gods, not the same authors, written at completely different times, and written in the context of completely different cultures.
The simple answer is that the gospel wasn’t working as well as it had been, so they had to change it up to continue attracting people. Cults are basically popularity contests, and you can’t win if you’re scaring everyone away.
Maybe because JC was a great guy and a lot of people believed in what he had to say. So, in order to benefit from his fame and gain the trust of his past and potential future followers, there was a gathering a hundred or so years after his death where they chose suitable accounts of his life to include in the book called the new testament. Accounts like the ones later found in the Nag Hammadhi texts and “gnostic gospels” were excluded because they undermined the authoritiy of the church and the power of priests to be the only ones to interpret the will of God.
