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He’s a piece of shit. Got voted out last election and then made another politician resign so he could run a “safe” conservative riding in Alberta. He is a garbage person with zero redeeming qualities who has never passed a piece of legislation despite being a lifelong politician never having any other job. He’s a grifter who has sucked off the taxpayer tit his entire career. He lives in taxpayer subsidized housing . He will never be Canadas Prime Minister. We call him PeePee, or Millhouse or just “massive douchebag”.
He and Danielle smith need to fuck right off this planet. Send them back to mars
Hard agree.
He got voted out AND lost his riding.
For those in the US, it’s the equivalent of a governor with presidential aspirations blowing a 30 point lead to lose the election, then immediately getting voted out of his governorship, only to then ask Greg Abbott to step down so he can run for governor of Texas while living in DC.
More like a senator than a governor
The guy fails big. And with no shame. We should give it a name.
Pp level fail.
He has to be the worst candidate they have put forward in a long time, carney is pissing me off but this guy is dangerous. As soon as he came back he started in in immigrants and his supporters started up their racist protests
Kick him in the mouth
So if socialism is bad because it’s in the name of Nazis, then democratic republics for the people must be pretty horrible too, going by the DPRK.
While we’re cherry-picking, the Kingdom of Norway is consistently one of the best countries to live in across several metrics. So clearly we should go back to kingdoms, because it’s in the name. Sometimes the old ways are best XD
There’s a much more-fundamental example:
Socialism is when parents shelter, clothe, & feed, their children, who don’t have earnings to shelter/clothe/feed themselves.
Every parent who feeds their babies is demonstrating socialism, no matter what their politics purport to be.
Keep the framing universal, & that guts the gaslighting’s position MUCH more effectively.
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Thanks for sharing that idea! I appreciate what you’re getting at: that basic care (food, clothing) embodies the tenet of equality in socialism. However, the example of a parent feeding a child doesn’t quite capture the power-relations, freedoms, and systems aspects of socialism. I don’t think we really want to say a master feeding/clothing their slave or a king feeding/clothing a favorite court jester is really “demonstrating socialism”. Socialism is about how society as a whole arranges ownership, production, and resource distribution (i.e. collective ownership of the means of production). It’s a counter to capitalism.
Parental relationships are, ironically, a special case where limiting freedoms and greater power disparity are justified in most egalitarian systems. We usually don’t give children ownership over the means of production.
Good formal description: https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/socialism
Tiny PP is a piece of shit. I had hoped Canada had cut off its PP earlier this year but Nazis are like hydras
well we did. and then one of his lackeys who did win in some butt fuck no where town decided to step down so PP could have it. I mean the guy not only lost the PM race but also lost his home riding so he quite literally had to move somewhere else and have that place handed to him.
I can never tell if politicians honestly believe the National Socialism of the Nazis was actually socialist, of if they’re taking advantage of dumb voters. If it’s the opinion of a “man on the street”, then yes, he’s that dumb.
I think the answer to your confusion is in the fact that the actions National Socialists always take is the oppression and subjugation of the vulnerable in society.
that in itself is proof that they are not socialists, but fascists.
Their rhetoric was that they’d target the secret cabal controlling the banking system. Their actions were to subjugate the vulnerable, but that’s exactly what socialist governments do, too.
After spending a couple of years on Lemmy and hearing actual socialist rhetoric, I can see why people would conflate the two.
I thought this guy was supposed to be smart?
I think he’s banking on his followers being not-zo smart
…why?
Shut him up now or you’ll be like us in less than a decade.
He’s just the latest in Rupert Murdoch’s line of pets he has trying to spread his shit across Canada.
Harper was one too but thankfully his plan to implement Sun news, which would have been a news channel that was the Canadian equivalent of Fox, was never brought to fruition.
But sadly much of rural Canada drinks the Fox news firehose.
Dont brush it off. Look at us to the south. Dont brush this off. Chase these people with pitch forks and torches until they are forced to make their own shantytown in the wilderness. It won’t go away they have to be forcibly removed.
Too late. Country has already shifted right.
It’s already far deeper than him… he’s just what bubbled to the surface in that pot.
Canada being a racist country pretending to be progressive is its biggest flaw, I grew up hearing about how perfect Canada is, and then I got older and learned about residential schools and genocide and how they have historically treated people like me. Now im old and I see a country that doesn’t care that its citizens can’t afford food or rent or a future. It was all a lie.
Having said that, pp represents the people who caused all the misery and hate for centuries
It’s not going to take that long. there are a lot of people that really love them
but yes I do hope that we can sort our shit out and not end up like you. and if we do, please everybody else treat us like shit
There’s no nazi propagand in what he said. You could argue he’s wrong, but this headline is a clickbait for stupids
‘Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’
‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.
‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.
‘We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…
‘What’, I continued my cross-examination, ‘are the fundamental planks of your platform?’
‘We believe in a healthy mind, in a healthy body. The body politic must be sound if the soul is to be healthy. Moral and physical health are synonymous.’
‘Mussolini’, I interjected, ‘said the same to me’. Hitler beamed.
‘The slums’, he added, ‘are responsible for nine-tenths, alcohol for one-tenth of all human depravity. No healthy man is a Marxian. Healthy men recognise the value of personality. We contend against the forces of disaster and degeneration. Bavaria is comparatively healthy because it is not completely industrialised… If we wish to save Germany, we must see to it that our farmers remain faithful to the land. To do so, they must have room to breathe and room to work.’
‘Where will you find the room to work?’
‘We must retain our colonies and expand eastward. There was a time when we could have shared world domination with England. Now we must stretch our cramped limbs only toward the east. The Baltic is necessarily a German lake.'”
The claim that the Nazis were actually socialists is an early Nazi lie - it’s in the name of the party after all - to gain votes. They never changed that name, so they perpetrated that lie and never officially retracted it. They were fascist, not socialist. It’s not impossible to be both, I grant you, but one does not imply the other.
Modern right-wing detractors of socialism, especially those on the far right, like to use the lie to decry socialism, all the while secretly revering a good portion of Nazi politics.
People always complain that socialism is a slippery slope into fascism yet are somehow blind that capitalism is doing the same thing.
People always complain that socialism is a slippery slope into fascism
Literally noone does. It’s a slippery slope to totalitarianism, but that’s not the same as fascizm
They were fascist, not socialist. It’s not impossible to be both
I mean… socialism as an economic system isn’t strictly incompatible with ethnic nationalism, so long as you’re willing to buy into the eugenic arguments of who constitutes “real people”. Once you consign a certain share of the population to the category of “property” and “pests”, you can slap the framework for a socialist system on top of the nightmarish politics of mass murder.
One could argue that Germany’s rapid resurgence in the wake of the Great Depression came about precisely because the reactionary movement wasn’t hopelessly wedded to the libertarian laisse-faire economics. The boom that Germany enjoyed in the 1930s was absolutely the result of a radically left wing approach to centralized state-run planning. But the purpose of that surge in productivity was to invade, loot, and plunder German’s immediate neighbors in a quest of European and North African re-colonization.
Modern right-wing detractors of socialism, especially those on the far right, like to use the lie to decry socialism, all the while secretly revering a good portion of Nazi politics.
What separates modern Trumpism from European fascism is this hopeless adherence to market theories of economic advancement. You can see it plainly in the government shutdown fight. Trump wants to fire millions of federal workers, under the dogged assumption that his erstwhile friends in the Tech Sector can replace them all with a fancy computer.
He’s all in on the Superiority Color Wheel, but fully divested of respect for engineering, logistics, and agricultural best-practices. Say what you will about Rommel, but the man knew how to budget out a tank of gas. Trumpism is about flooding the markets with paper currency and hoping his C-level buddies in banking and tech can figure out how to do economic management better than he can.
Modern right-wing detractors of socialism, especially those on the far right, like to use the lie to decry socialism, all the while secretly revering a good portion of Nazi politics.
There’s a massive logical fallacy here. The fact that someone doesn’t like socialism, doesn’t make them nazi.
Sure. They could just be deluged in the neoliberal free market propaganda of the current media cycle.
But they’re also a crop of individuals ripe for fascist ideology. The Randian Objectivists of the 1980s were slowly and inexorably converted into the Bush Era Christian Nationalists of the War on Terror Era. The Tea Party Libertarians of the 2000s were ultimately indoctrinated into the QAnon/MAGA movement of the 2020s. Once you buy into this idea of certain classes of people being economic parasites who deserve to be disciplined or exterminated by the Invisible Hand, you’re primed to accept that you can spot these people based on their race or religion or ideological affiliation.
Nazism is downstream of capitalism. Henry Ford was handing out copies of “The Protocols of the Elders of Zion” in all his dealerships for a reason.
Nazism is downstream of capitalism
facepalm
He’s trying to be disruptive in the same way as politicians in the Trump regime, and there’s probably a reason for that. Maybe the same reason he won’t get his security clearance?
He’s dollar store Trump?
Fuck that guy. I hate pp so much.
I hate pp so much.
- Lesbians
Heh, but…
“Fuck that guy” - not lesbians
Man we had such a nice break from him since the election.
Not on my Facebook feed 😒
That’s what you get on a Nazi social media site.
It’s how I talk to my mom. Sorry for having a mother I love?
I used to just call my mom.
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Where else would I go to see old people yell about the youth???
I hear that it’s fun to stay at the YMCA 🤷
readers adding context intensifies
This fucking guy almost made Prime Minister. That’s how close we got to more of this bullshit.
No, his claims are not “simply” ignorant, as the article claims:
his claims are INTENTIONALLY ignorant, which is malevolent, is disinformation, & is gaslighting-of-fact.
The difference between the 2 states is signficant.
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