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Eyes Up’s purpose is to “preserve evidence until it can be used in court.” But it has been swept up in Apple’s attack on ICE-spotting apps.
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My camera can record videos of ICE abuse. Are they gonna ban that?
I can’t think of a reason why, with client side scanning, they couldn’t in the near future implement a filter similar to this. Pictures and videos deemed “problematic” could magically disappear. And of course, your iPhone will send a helpful report to the local Gestapo branch. Eventually, “Sorry, network permission is required to run the camera app. You may not capture images of law enforcement activities per executive law. The camera will now be disabled until you comply.”
This… Is a very possible future
The thing is - the Internet itself is a fascist technology. Fascists, and especially German Nazis, used electric terms and analogies to refer to their politics. Mostly referring to unification of various parts into one network, except in their case the information medium really used was radio.
But the basic idea was that any kind of fascism thrives as means of mass politics. Anything unique, specific, individual is in conflict with that. But the Internet is the tool to slowly grind through that conflict, because it gradually reinforces one voice, one way and one meaning.
It’s a very intelligent trap and one hard to believe in, but our world today is so much more fascist than even in dictatorships 30 years ago, that I think I’m right.
Also consider that the very shock of something so modern and new and comfortable being used as a channel of control is, too, what Nazis did.
And when you want to argue that in the Internet one can post their own opinions and create their own spaces and do their own things, think again. These abilities are inherent to reality as well. Make a thought experiment - could you whisper with your friends at a Nazi meeting in the back rows? Could you not even attend? Could you have private conversations on everything you’d want elsewhere? Yes, these all are true. But the only voices to be heard by everyone and reinforced by that system and order were those from the tribune, and millions of voices would answer them in one and the same way, and millions of hands would raise in salute.
And LLMs and such new tools are going to make this worse, because they are tools of situational speech accord with what you expect, leveled by the common average, just like fascism is an ideology of situational emotional accord with what you feel, leveled by the common average. Fascism is the extreme ideology rejecting logic and semantics, and the Internet on every level has been built to reject logic and semantics as a medium of communication of living people. And LLMs are an even more direct tool to do well only that, all the rest is attempts to sell it, but this is its main trait.
And let’s recall again how that stopped - by spending all its resources and being defeated in a war.
A truly visionary and futuristic regime, honestly. It’s funny how Nazis were so futuristic despite being blood and soil barbarians, and Stalin’s regime was really reactionary despite dreaming of space travel, except Stalin’s regime’s official philosophy was dialectic materialism which is the only thing convenient to describe this contradiction.
Sophistry.
Sophistry
How so?
Stalin’s regime was really reactionary
Even this is a charitable description. The best term for Stalin’s regime is “despotism”.
That and also anti-intellectualism with ability to physically destroy intellectuals. People like Lysenko and Lepeschinskaya and so on being able to do that to their opponents are, IMHO, the main difference between 20s USSR which was pretty believably in avantgarde and 60s USSR which in all parts of its society just wanted some silent life and no more greatness.
Even when that anti-scientific crap and repressions stopped, Soviet science fiction and Soviet state ideology and Soviet system couldn’t be believed any more. They’ve lost basis in reality.
20s’ USSR had just restored its economy to 1914 levels and above in a few years after WWI, the revolution and the civil war, made a new republic, and seemed a successful resolution of Russia’s early XX century dead end.
60s’ USSR failed agriculture, controlling some of the most agriculturally productive areas on the planet.
If only there were such thing as cameras that weren’t integrated into smartphones.
States and cities try to criminalize recording police all the time.
That’s what AI is for
They actually did try the years ago. The idea was a signal could be sent to deactivate cameras and microphones on all phones in a vicinity. It was being pitched as a way to stop people from recording a live events like concerts but there was enormous outcry over the potential for abuse so it was dropped.
Technically it’s in place and used for a lot of assistant applications, they just didn’t flip the
$fascistbool yet.
We need to spread the word of lemmy reddit mods are banning everything
No shit, Big Tech is going to kowtow to whoever is in charge.
Remove Apple’s restrictions from the equation and just make it a PWA. This isn’t the sort of app that needs to run natively on your device, anyway.
Thus solidifying my scorched earth policy with apple.
I don’t want your naziPhone.
FYI, Google is also going after ICE-spotting apps.
FYI, Google is also going after ICE-spotting apps.
And therefore, ill punish neither.
Can you add anything else to nullify action, and foster an attitude of placid obedience?
Please, share more ideas to help entrench the status quo.
Can you add anything else to nullify action
You’re made of spare parts, aren’t ya, bud? No, therefore you should punish both, and get a phone with GrapheneOS or Linux.
You’re made of spare parts, aren’t ya, bud? No, therefore you should punish both, and get a phone with GrapheneOS or Linux.
So why didn’t you just say something like Look into Graphene OS or Linux in the first place?
Why did you assume I was “nullifying action”?
Why did you assume I was “nullifying action”?
Mostly your action nullifying attitude.
I shit on Tesla on a routine basis, and get zero pushback. No bitching about other vehicle producers who also are Trumpdy Dumptys…, zero.
I say don’t buy naziPhones, and people come out of the woodwork with every conceivable devil’s advocate angle, and basically maximize tangentiality.
Anything other than reinforcing the message of not buying apple:
Be mad at everyone, such that you apply pressure to no one.
You know, nullifying action.
OK, so you had an incorrect perception of a comment, but it’s not your fault. No, surely it must be everyone else that’s at fault for *checks notes* “nullifying action”, whatever the fuck that made-up nonsense verbiage means. not only that, but then your pet attack dog comes along and somehow twists that into me defending pedophiles.
idk, maybe the problem here people is contorting themselves into human pretzels so they can leap to nonsensical conclusions.
No, they’re pointing out the chilling effect of shitting on the topic.
You’re the kind of fuckwit that would say Chris Hansen does no good against predators because he’s one guy doing a small set of stings… You’re the kind of guy who’d shit on a compromise policy that’s otherwise still a step in the right direction. You’re the kind of guy to make good the enemy of great.
and you have the gall to use insults when YOU are the one committing the social faux pas…
Pathetic. If you’re going to point out flaws, be constructive with it. Otherwise it is still on YOU if someone assumes negative intent from unconstructive criticism.
I’m not particularly concerned with what some random person on the internet thinks of me, so I’m not going to bother reading all that. But feel free to go off, just do it to my hand because the block I just gave you means I’m not listening.
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We really need a Linux phone… It’s like the future of democracy depends on it…
Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group. Right now tens of millions of people there are straight-up worshipping an obvious fascist as god-king and a sizeable portion of the other chunk is still desperately clinging to the idea of being “moderate”.
A linux phone would be nice but it’s not going to save the world if the people are still dumb and cowardly.
Future of democracy in the US relies on the people being vaguely intelligent as a group.
Yeah, it’s fucked.
The free western world really need to fast track the divide from US controlled tech.
It’s too late. Even without the influence of tech assholes, the western world has gone full fascist and it’s just not coming back to anything safe without a fuckton of Luigi’s.
Unfortunately, the data shows violent uprisings almost always fail.
We need nonviolent action.
Notice I didnt say peaceful.
why is luigi so popular and adored they ask
And we don’t even know how if he actually did the job!
I know he didn’t do it. we were deep in a duos ping pong tourney at the time that incident occurred.
Can you…prove this?
No need. We are in a post proof society.
can anybody… disprove this?
I’m glad the google play store never censors apps, oh wait. It’s almost as if big corporations and now governments have no citizens best interests in mind, mind blowing.
“Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the merger of state and corporate power.” - Benito Mussolini
Apple has consistently been a completely anti-consumer just basically evil corporation for 30+ years. Everyone knows it, there are just the people who care and who will never be smart enough to care.
Corpos are not your friends. In fact they are usually the enemy.
they are
usuallyalways the enemyBetter though than Framework who donate to bad open source developers. Hail big corporate! /s
(This isn’t directed at you, I’m more frustrated by the people in the Framework controvery threads who somehow thing buying Apple or Dell is a more ethical choice).
Why can’t this be a web app that uses web notifications? Why does it even need to be an on-device app? That’s building in a vulnerability that doesn’t need to be there.
Make it a site. Go to the site. Pin the site. Allow notifications from site. Done.
Yes, Apple and Google are in the wrong, but why are we relying on them for this at all? Not everything needs to be a fucking app.
What’s even stopping them from just uploading to archive.org?
Cause tech illiterate people need as much friction removed as possible.
This isn’t a tech illiteracy issue. Sure you CAN take a video, and upload it to archive.org from your phone.
Try doing that while actively being abused by ICE.
It’s about making the process as foolproof as possible, because seconds matter here, and making sure that footage is backed up as quickly as possible is paramount.
What a way to say the same thing but differently, well done.
Nope, you’re conflating tech illiteracy with failing to meet the needs of the use case. Hope that helps!
Why you have to be such a loser?
please do not the ai slop
Saved it months ago from somewhere, this is a recycling.
@therapygary@lemmy.dbzer0.com made it.
pLeAsE dO nOt ThE aI SlOp
“Which side did you choose when authoritarianism came to your doorstep?”
Looks like Tim Apple has chosen.
Beholden to the AAPL ticker.
People need to realize. There is no fair access to technology. You either bend the knee or have to create your own marketplace.
Time to smash the looms.
Its why I have linux PC / laptops, and GrapheneOS on my phone (may get a fairphone next time)
Me too, but the lords of Technofeudalism, backed by government, won’t allow that forever. Maybe on PCs, but not phones. No “side loading” what they don’t approve. Banks and co, only allowing their apps on approved OSs. No satnav traffic data unless you use an approved satnav, rendering them useless.
The problem isn’t technological, it’s political. We need decent government protecting citizens and enforcing competition laws. The problem is the population don’t understand what is being done to them, so don’t vote against it.
None of it is new. Liberty vs security, monopoly, etc, aren’t new, but wrapping it in technology blinds most people to it.
Agreed on decent government…that is tech savvy. At least Fairphone is independent and you can swap the default android to Ubuntu touch OS
Same problems though. If you run something odd ball like Ubuntu, the banking apps won’t work and you may struggle to have a satnav with traffic info. If you run stock Android, you will soon only be able to install, sorry, “side load”, apps Google approves.
I’m sorry to say it, but neither Linux nor the hardware you use it on fit under “create your own”.
Well you can build Linux from scratch if you want to create your own. And RISC hardware is opensource, and gaining adoption.
But at least with Fairphone they have built it so that you don’t need google android or derivatives, you can install Ubuntu Touch OS.
With Ubuntu you have access to the worlds store of Linux apps, you don’t have to rely on apple or Google restrictions
Well you can build Linux from scratch if you want to create your own.
Building a project is not creating your own.
And RISC hardware is opensource, and gaining adoption.
RISC-V, and what’s gaining adoption is not what’s opensource.
I don’t think you are getting my point. When you depend on one humongous project, open or not, you depend on what those having influence in it decide.
That’s why they make autonomies, checks and balances, minority quotas, proportional systems and so on in democracies. Because deciding everything through a simple majority vote with no limitations and nuance, with winner taking all, doesn’t make things good.
In this case it’s a weight of work vote, not majority vote, but the results are not too much different. Similar to how Bitcoin turned out.
So-o - in Linux most of work is now being done by a set of the same big corporations. It’s not the magic freedom tool someone would want it to be, sorry.
You can totally build your own. You don’t have to rely on packages given.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V
Free and OpenCode
And there are so many Linuxes (some like Redhat that gets influence from Intel, and some like (insert name here) that are peoples own projects) that corporate control cannot dominate it all.
Like nixOS has controversy at the moment because a steering board member is linked to US military. He could compromise the project by steering it toward the fascist regimes agenda, so you load Gentoo or VOID.
Choices are freedom
The claim that most of the work is bring done by big corps , skips a step. Corps have money and dedicate people to add to projects to suit their own needs, their commits to kernel may be high, but its not neccessry for a running system…there is a world wide open source community building their own stuff out of passion alone.
Like Facebook contributed a lot to btrfs, if you feel that somehow has shady backend, just don’t include it in your kernel modules.
Or if you are super paranoid run Haiku LOL
No, there’s one Linux and its versions. And various ways you can use it, build it, package it.
What I meant is that the codebase is mostly one.
It’s sort of like with Bible.
And there are so many Linuxes (some like Redhat that gets influence from Intel, and some like (insert name here) that are peoples own projects) that corporate control cannot dominate it all.
No, those people will still use code contributed by RedHat, and the OS whose development has been influenced by RedHat.
Like nixOS has controversy at the moment because a steering board member is linked to US military. He could compromise the project by steering it toward the fascist regimes agenda, so you load Gentoo or VOID.
NixOS is a distribution. Somehow in this quote you admit that said compromise can come in various ways, so controversy arises from that board member themselves just being there.
But with enormous companies making the actual software you ignore it.
Also replacing nixOS with Gentoo or Void is not quite equal. I’ve been trying to move to GuixSD from Void (because Nix gives me anxiety, Guile doesn’t, and the whole GNU spirit is nice), but I’m always too lazy to wait for actual Guix installation to finish, so I interrupt it and forget it for a while.
The claim that most of the work is bring done by big corps , skips a step. Corps have money and dedicate people to add to projects to suit their own needs, their commits to kernel may be high, but its not neccessry for a running system…there is a world wide open source community building their own stuff out of passion alone.
Too complex. When you need a more vague explanation than the obvious, cynical, common sense one, it’s likely wrong.
People building stuff out of passion alone do much more idea-centered and specific things. Which are much smaller. They don’t make consumer operating systems or web browsers or office suites or device drivers.
You can probably attribute things like Emacs and, ahem, Guix and a few other GNU projects permanently in alpha, like GNUNet, to this. And plenty of interesting obscure stuff.
But not things that make money. In that domain everything is done to in order make money by people paid for their work and in the way that doesn’t hurt moneymaking.
Like Facebook contributed a lot to btrfs, if you feel that somehow has shady backend, just don’t include it in your kernel modules.
No, that is probably fine, except btrfs still doesn’t react well to power loss, probably cause Facebook and Oracle think more about servers with UPSes. And that’s typical, other people make their own project goals, the results may work for you too, but you’d have something better if you paid for it directly.
Haiku is not about paranoia, but speaking about volunteers and passion - it’s a system made that way.
If you want to get that deep into it even your tomato choices are controlled by a large company (hybrid seed, chemical starter, distribution, preestablished deals with vendors) but you can still grow your own.
Nothing stopping anyone from being the next Linus and deciding to start something new.
Nothing stopping anyone from forking an old kernel and doing something different with it and stripping out the big corp stuff you don’t like.
Or start breaking things.
I realize I’m not entirely free yet, but I sleep better ever since I changed to a non-Google Android ROM. Also because the path to proper mobile Linux feels shorter now.
Anyone still on Google Android: Look into making the change. It’s worth it.
And if not, at least start getting your apps from F-droid whenever possible.
I’d love to make the switch. I was looking into custom roms for my S24U and finally decided I’m okay with tripping Knox, so I’d give it a go… Nope! Samsung has removed the ability to unlock the bootloader in OneUI 8, with no path to downgrade. So I’m stuck with an excellent piece of hardware, running software that collects and sells my data.
Does “play integrity” work on non Google android? I’m rooted and system wide adblocking, but I still use things like streaming apps.
MicroG makes most things work, so it’s not much compromise in my experience. :)
I use /e/OS which has access to apps from the Play Store, so that I still have my banking apps and stuff. I think streaming apps should work just fine.
Thank you for letting me know!
Yep, switching as many apps as you can to foss apps, and moving to non Gmail based email services will make future switching way easier.
I made a tool to help with this. It sends encrypted Signal alerts when ICE shows up in your area based on community reports. Honestly been struggling to get the word out because everyone thinks it’s spam, but it’s legit and people are using it. iceheadsup.com Please check it out or share with someone it could help.
I banned Apple from my life a long time ago.
Never owned one of their products, not even once. When I realized the iPod didn’t support USB file transfer and they forced you to use iTunes, I knew that they were a bad company and I vowed to never use their products.
