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- usa@midwest.social
cross-posted from: https://infosec.pub/post/36033796
Amid the ongoing shutdown, the HHS secretary wiped out entire offices that investigate disease outbreaks, manage infectious disease responses and collect data.
9% of the remaining staff.
Another 4,000 government employees were fired across other vital programs.We are still leas than a year into this 4 years presidency.
There isnt just gonna be a fixing this. The US is going to have to take decades to rebuild itself from scratch whenever this fascist agenda ends.
wheneverif this fascist agenda ends.That’s one of the few silver linings of fascism, it always ends. It’s inherently unstable.
But it’ll kill me first so I’d really prefer to just stop it now by any means necessary, including the things I’m not allowed to say
It’s never had modern resources before
Neither did the people fighting fascism.
Unfortunately there’s not really a good historical example of fascism being stopped once they have the power of the pulpit without the help of foreign intervention.
Good news is that there’s Putin, who fight in the Ukraine against their fascist regime, I’m sure he would love to annex US too. /s
Sad that the /s is absolutely required now a days .
Nuclear weapons have the same silver lining! What a coincidence!
All things end.
Now the timeline and the explosiveness of its ending are to be determined.
4 years presidency.
So that’s not inherently guaranteed. The constitution can be amended - hell, term limits themselves come from an amendment, not the original text. I believe there’s at least one supreme court justice who doesn’t even believe in amendments - if it wasn’t in the original text of the constitution, it doesn’t count.
Luckily POTUS himself can’t legally suspend or delay elections. But I’m pretty sure a sympathetic congress can.
We can rebuild it, we have the technology, >!we just don’t want to spend a lot of money!<
Now is the time to cordon off all of the US. Nobody in or out, you stay in there and rot and fester.
May I recommend that we, as a global community, not decide to allow rot to fester in a country with more nuclear warheads than any other on the planet and continually degrading safeguards for their inventory and security?
That rot can go metastatic very quickly.
May I rather also recommend that we don’t leave good folks rot in there?
They will be crushed, and can never help in the rebuilding of society
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Looks like it is happening already https://infosec.pub/post/36042267
RFK is on track to have one of the highest kill counts for a powerful US figure in the first quarter of the 21st century. That is an intimidating sentence and yet it seems to be undeniably true, I don’t see how we can swerve from the path of mass amounts of unnecessary death in the US from disease. Shame on us.
Not just in the United States. The Lancet estimates just cancelling USAID will kill 14 million people between now and 2030. 14 million avoidable deaths because the world’s richest man thought feeding the poor was a waste.
RFK is on track to do a lot of damage, but he has some stiff competition.
And they will still blame communism somehow
RFK is on track to do a lot of damage, but he has some stiff competition.
Yes but RFK genuinely terrifies me more than the competition, he is a super-critical confluence of stupidity, confidence and undisguised fascism.
I am ADHD, RFK is intent on killing people like me off through his policy, that isn’t an exaggeration and he is likely to succeed by the look of things. The centrist position in the US is that people like me have had it coming, sooooo…
First they came for the…
I’m just over here glad that I never stopped masking, distancing, washing my hands, or carrying my sanitizer around.
Bummer that not everyone is able to do that.
Oh how I wish we didn’t share a geographic border with this fuck-up of a nation (with its ability to spread diseases directly to us). <cries in Canadian>
… and how I also wish we didn’t have a significant cell of idiots within our borders who seem to believe the same insanity.
EU, please take under your wing. Whatever faults may be there surely it must be better than this.
Monkeys Paw curls: you’re now a resource rich nation with little man power or military strength isolated from Europe geographically and Russia is your neighbor. “EU please take us under your wing”Ukraine2022-2026 Lmfaoo.
You goofys are stuck with us on this ride to hell. Strap in and less bitching and whining.
Fuck that, I’m already buying nothing from the US, and I’m not the only one. Every time I go to the grocery store there’s fewer US products (because people aren’t buying them) and more products from Canada and elsewhere. Sure there will be an economic impact on Canada if the US collapses, but we’ll still have food and a functional country so we can adapt. We know the direction the US is going even if you don’t and we aren’t going to be pulled down into being a shithole country like the US is becoming.
Russia is on the ropes right now, and the US doesn’t have a good track record with occupying countries and can’t even keep it’s government running right now LOL. Hegseth wants to turn the US military into being more like ICE and cowards like that would shit themselves before they even got close to actual combat.
Your country is falling apart, everyone in the world knows it and is already figuring out how things will work after the US collapses, because you’re the only “goofys” that would go from being the richest country on the the planet to complete collapse because y’all got suckered by a shady real estate conman twice.
Once again, completely detached from reality. The right wing movements popping up in Canada and Europe are just a little bit younger than ours, they have the same resources at their disposal and they’re learning a lot of valuable lessons in real time from our dictatorship. You will get your dictatorship soon goofy ass. Look how quick you are to make friends, it seems like you are the perfect political target for the type of thing that is happening in America 🤷♂️. The Murdoch family will get you guys soon. Don’t worry. Just stay mad at us foreigners and lean into that nationalism you just regurgitated. Goofy.
Yeah and the rest of us are learning too. Look at the recent elections in Canada, Australia, Finland, etc. MAGA style politics were soundly rejected.
Goofy Americans LOL. But you can still have a sense of pride over influencing the world (that seems important to you) but as a cautionary tale that no one wants for their own country.
Germany seems to be having a hard time with their far right, Italy, Hungary, France. I think there are more examples. You guys fended off a polished PP but he’ll be back. Your wealth inequality and housing crisis ain’t getting any better. It’s just a matter of time. How are things in Alberta anyway? I’m going to take a wild guess and say you live on the coast? Or an internet echo chamber?
No, we get news all about Alberta throughout the country. There’s some idiots there to be sure, but they’re the minority. The oil industry dominates there and they’re only loyal to the almighty dollar. The farmers in Alberta don’t seem to like how things are going with the oil industry domination of their politics, and certainly don’t like the separatist bullshit promoted but the oil industry assholes that only care about money.
PP has had to moderate quite a lot and Mark Carney is what we call a Red Tory… a conservative in the Liberal Party. Carney has a lot of popularity because he appeals to traditional conservatives and liberals aren’t going to be voting for PP, so that leaves the NDP which has lost the working class and seem directionless at the moment. PP is an internet weirdo (and only appeals to internet weirdos, not traditional conservatives) and there’s a very good chance he’ll be removed as leader of the party. There’s a significant probability that Doug Ford will replace PP next year, but in any case the Conservative rhetoric now seems to be all about them being tougher on the US than Carney. Even with PP has had to push that kind of rhetoric.
See politics is more complicated that your simplistic view of things. There isn’t really any chance that Canada will fall in line with Trump, it would be political suicide to do so. The only grumbling I hear is that Carney is being too friendly with Trump.
The other examples you listed are incumbents voted in before the tides turned.
Consider the possibility there may be more going on in politics in other countries than people just mindlessly copying the US. But there’s an undercurrent throughout the world that Trump sucks (because he does) and politicians that resemble him are being rejected.
Sorry, but the US is sinking ship and everyone else in the world knows this and is trying to get as far from you as they can to avoid getting sucked down with you. You’re the goofiest country in history going from the wealthiest country in the world to becoming a shithole country because something about your culture created the conditions so most of you got hypnotized by a real estate conman.
Sorry, but the US is sinking ship and everyone else in the world knows this and is trying to get as far from you as they can to avoid getting sucked down with you. You’re the goofiest country in history going from the wealthiest country in the world to becoming a shithole country because something about your culture created the conditions so most of you got hypnotized by a real estate conman.
Im not arguing with any of that, cause you spitting facts. I know nothing about politics outside of the US. I just know that the people in power here absolutely have the money power and influence to do this to any country. It only took a couple generations here. You guys aren’t really getting out fast enough, no ones really acknowledging us as a military threat or an economic threat. Decoupling your investments and economies has not happened yet. Why is that? of ya fear of escalation, because it is a real threat to any economy, thus we are all in this together brother. you may not share the glory of the American civil war, but you will feel the economic effects, and hell the winner might invade you so there’s that. Need to do some immediate looting and pillaging to rebuild the empire ya know? Your national security is closely tied to USA stability. you don’t want hordes of refugees or troops flowing over your uncontested boarders.
What do you think the end game here is when the Nazis have a stranglehold on America? do you think their plan is to let you just sit there and do whatever you want? Do you think they plan on sticking to election interference or maybe get a little more aggressive? Like no one’s going to go after Canada in the later stages of this? Who’s going to come to your aid when you’re landlocked by the largest navy in existence? You’re goofy asses are in this with us. They’ve already started the claim of 51st state lmao. Just delusional to the interconnectedness of our two countries. Americas fate is your fate too.
I guess you realize now the MAGA style politics is losing traction outside of the US.
The US invading it’s allies would be insane, and very costly. There’s a reason why countries don’t go to war with countries they do a lot of trade with. The US is already teetering on the brink of economic collapse and that would send it over the edge. Doesn’t mean it won’t happen, it was almost as stupid for Putin to invade Ukraine, authoritarians do stupid things sometimes.
But that’s a low probability. You’re being goofy if you don’t realize a civil war within the US is a much more likely outcome than the US invading allied countries that will fight back. Of course Trump’s supposed “enemy within” will fight back too, but the US is already in a cold civil war states are sending soldiers into other states. It’s still cold since shots aren’t being fired yet, but it could go hot. I hope for your sake it doesn’t.
I think there is a truly infinite number of plausible outcomes from here, not many would exclude Canada from the fate of the US. Americans are probably too lazy for civil war, but im not excluding that. This republican regime has friends in most nations and they are eager to buy more. There’s nothing chaotic about what’s going on in America, and Im not accusing you of mirroring our political beliefs, or claiming to understand yours. Im just saying there’s a reason why JD Vance is visiting Germany for AfD rallies. This doesn’t end with trump, and it doesn’t stop in America. No one is out of reach of the American economy or military. Calling Putin stupid while he still occupies Ukraine is a great analogy of how I see your perceived independence from this chaos. Yes it’s stupid, yes it’s still happening, and yes the toll in human suffering is astounding.
Your neighbor is a nuclear superpower spouting belligerent aggressive threats. Im just a US Citizen who’s been partially Russified along with the mass majority of this country. A psychopath has taken control of our nuclear arsenal and is holding the world for ransom in some kind of strange protection racket. Most of us are completely powerless and apathetic, surly this won’t devolve from here! Hopefully we do have a civil war and disarm ourselves before we usher in nuclear Armageddon. My money is on comrade trumps central economy and wealth redistribution to be the down fall. hopefully a real populist uprising and some French style revolution with guillotines, maybe a little WW3 as a distraction from popular uprising tho who knows.
They are still testing boundaries right now.
Albertans would swim in shit streams and eat road kill if they could.
Even Albertans know they gotta build some pipelines because the US is going down the tubes. Still not with it enough to understand O&G is a dead end, but it’s obvious to even them there’s no future selling anything to the US.
They don’t already?
No, I would not. Be careful with generalizations as they include all the people most negatively effected by the policies of the region. Criticizing “Alberta”? Completely fair. Criticizing all “Albertans”, people who didn’t choose to be born here, to have their families here? Very different, and a cohesion/division fallacy if you give it more than a passing thought.
Saying that every person here is evil or stupid because of the choices of a government, ignoring those who voted against the government and then rolling the moral standing of both groups in with each other is an awful thing to do.
Historically fascists leave office when they die
I’m fine with that.
If Trump had done this the first time around before Covid hit, many more people, including his fat ass, would have died.
Many, many people are going to die because of this.
I always thought 5% (1/20) of the USA population would not survive this administration.
But not from violence: instead they will die, without headlines, from lack of medicine for simple things like high blood pressure and diabetes; not screening cancers; complications from malnutrition; infectious diseases; and combinations of these.
Oh so it was a kickback for the insurance companies
Average life expectancy will plummet further compared to the rest of the modern educated world …
Not if we stop tracking it 🤠
And not just in the United States.
god works in mysterious ways
And you’ll be ok with it.
And they voted for it. America is very difficult to underestimate.
My country is being destroyed right in front of me. What a time to be alive!
I’m just sitting waiting for it to either kill me or fail trying. And all I can do in the meantime is try to live life pretending like it’s not on a time limit
They have since admitted it was a mistake and then rehired all the white ones.
I hate that I can’t tell if this is satire.
It’s 30% satire. Some of the white ones were terrible Lefties that have been to a college and so they didn’t re-hire ALL of them.
it must be because in the case of RFK Jr he wouldn’t really care about race; he’d just want anyone with proper medical education gone so he wouldn’t have to hear the phrase “that’s the biggest crock of shit I’ve heard” every day.
Other countries should just stop tourists from the USA from entering - the damn place is a biohazard at this point.
Hey, you’re a genius! Let’s look at a list of all countries with measles outbreaks and restrict all their citizens from travel!
Oh no, there is sub-optimal measles vaccination coverage across the EU/EEA! Oh no, Yemen, India, Pakistan, the Russian Federation, Canada, Mexico!
I don’t know what country you live in, Mr. Genius, but for your sake I hope it’s North Korea so you can be isolated from the rest of civilization.
Mr Genius, North Korea and russia are already isolated…
And neither Yemen nor India, Pakistan or Mexico have effectively “free entry” to Europe.
As for the US - they have almost free entry AND they just killed the CDC. Which means we won’t know how many cases they have and how bad the situation will be in a year or two.
Haha, holy crap you’re a dim bulb!
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You completely ignore my lead and link… THE EUROPEAN UNION is experiencing a resurgence of measles and is undervaccinated. Do you realize how stupid this makes your entire argument? Nobody can be that dimwitted, can they?
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NORTH KOREA wasn’t on my list! I was saying I hope you lived there exactly because it is isolated!
Bruh, you lack even basic reading comprehension skills. I don’t even know how you manage.
Also, I am the one calling you a genius. Can’t you even come up with your own shtick?
Are you high, Mr Genius?
Did you miss the fact that everything we’re talking about here is in the context of Trump closing down the CDC?
Do you know what the CDC does?
Also, I am the one calling you a genius. Can’t you even come up with your own shtick?
Nah, Mr Genius, you didn’t call dibbs! Rookie mistake!
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ONLY 4 COUNTRIES IN THE EUROPEAN UNION REPORT MEETING THE TWO DOSE VACCINATION COVERAGE FOR MEASLES.
Sounds like the damn place is a biohazard at this point, and we need to stop tourists from the EU from entering other countries like Alaknar advises.
That’s mainly because until very recent craziness (mainly US imported) Measles was approaching eradication and the vaccination regime was lightened because of that. Now it will have to be upped again, which is already happening.
This whataboutism works as a gotcha in a random comment, but EU reality isn’t that bleak yetIt isn’t whataboutism. It’s facts and data. It’s in response to the the ridiculous low-IQ statements from the OP claiming that the US is a biohazard now because the fascists in charge fired people at the CDC.
Read the article I linked. There are plenty of cases of measles in the European Union, along with low vaccination coverage, and they haven’t fired anyone at their CDC. Should we be knee-jerk calling to restrict travel to and from the EU?
But I love how you think the EU measles and vaccination issue is a US import, instead of what it really is.
Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?
Evidently, the CDC in the EU doesn’t exist, if only 4 countries are properly vaccinated for measles. Get your house in order, genius.
The CDC/ECDC’s job is also to monitor and alert, and it’s doing exactly that.
The US just lost that capability
You think that the people rooting for this are world travelers? What’s really strange is I just did an Uber ride for a couple from the Netherlands that came to visit center of nowhere.
You are good people YiddishMcSquidish. Keep up the fight against ignorance. I know it ain’t easy in this sea of mediocrity.
You think that the people rooting for this are world travelers?
I don’t care if the guy spreading measles voted D or R. I care that he’s spreading measles.
Democrats still believe in science and get their family vaccinated. But nice attempt to BOTH SIDES!!! the issue, cretin.
Or maybe you just don’t understand how disease and infection works? Highly likely.
You deserve better than this hive mind.
Dude is using multiple accounts to artificially get some credits (votes)
Don’t respond to them and you should block them.
It was hilarious watching him do it in real time, knowing what a waste of time it was for him to have to keep logging in and out of multiple accounts.
I love it when people like that prove what little character they truly have, that they put that much wasted effort into making their petty hate against other people, countries and cultures look more popular than it is.
People who believe in truth and science should always unite together against the real evil in society: hate and ignorance
Wow, you sure have a short fuse, buddy. Shame your aim is all over the place.
Now read this and this, then come back and tell me:
- how Democrats’ belief in science helps them when the whole country becomes infested, and
- you’re sorry for calling me names for completely failing to understand what I wrote.
Thanks for proving with your links about herd immunity and asymptomatic carriers that you have no real idea how disease and infection works. You are literally saying you think vaccinated people visiting a place with vaccinated people will create a pandemic. I guess you don’t believe vaccinations really work?
You’re a genius!
FFS, mate…
Vaccinated people aren’t 100% immune. Vaccinated people CAN be the transfer vessel for viruses. AND not everybody CAN get vaccinated.
Like, if you took your head out of your arse for one minute to read what I’m actually writing, you’d realise that you’re barking up the wrong tree.
Bruh. Did I say vaccinated people are 100% immune? Nope! But it’s a beautiful world of straw you live in! Hey, when there is a measles outbreak, do you think it’s going to run rampant in communities where the majority of people vaccinate their children, or is it going to run rampant in the communities where people don’t vaccinate at all? Do you know why that is, because that’s how fricken vaccines work. Before I get a flu vaccine, do I ask myself, GARSH, DID EVERYONE GET A FLU VACCINE I SURE HOPE SO!!
Why do you think that is, hm? Gosh, that’s right, because that is what vaccinations do! For some stupid reason you wanted to make it into some political, anti-Democrats, anti-US thing to punish us all for a group of ignorant Republicans. Here’s a simple solution, if you are a country worried about measles: require people traveling to your country to be vaccinated.
Do you even know the top 10 countries with measles outbreaks? Did you know Yemen leads the list? Did you know India, Pakistan, Russia, Canada and Mexico are on the list? You better start calling your government and demanding to restrict your borders! Idiot.
Thanks for being observant, and I love that fucking user name!
Oh my god, look at all the measles pouring out of European Union countries! 32,265! Alaknar, what is going on with you guys in the European Union don’t you believe in vaccinations and herd immunity??!
The EU is a BIOHAZARD at this point!
Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?
And by the way, Sir Genius, the CDC doesn’t manufacture Measles vaccinations.
So people in America who are intelligent and understand how vaccinations work will continue to get them. But seriously, you need to worry less about the US and start focusing on your own vaccination problems in the EU, according to this, and using YOUR LOGIC, you guys are a biohazard
The CDC/ECDC’s job is also to monitor and alert, and it’s doing exactly that.
The US just lost that capability
With those huge numbers, do they even have the equivalent of a CDC? How useless must the EU equivalent CDC must be if it is THAT INEFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING MEASLES.
Weren’t you the one teaching me about herd immunity and asymptomatic carriers? It sounds like the EU needs to be quarantined immediately
Those numbers are worse than the country you are complaining about, why aren’t you screaming to quarantine the EU? Very telling.
Did you even read the article?? ONLY 4 COUNTRIES IN THE EUROPEAN UNION REPORT COVERAGE FOR BOTH VACCINATION DOSES! There goes your guys herd immunity, time to revoke your travel privileges.
However, vaccination levels in the EU/EEA still fall short of this target, with estimates from 2023 showing that only four countries (Hungary, Malta, Portugal and Slovakia) report such coverage for both doses.
With those huge numbers, do they even have the equivalent of a CDC? How useless must the EU equivalent CDC must be if it is THAT INEFFECTIVE IN PREVENTING MEASLES.
One of the jobs of CDC and ECDC is to monitor and report the situation. There are countries with shitty vaccination programs (like Romania) or with strong anti-vax movements (like the US), and it’s the job of organisations like CDC/ECDC to monitor the spread of viruses and advise preventative measures if things get out of control.
Without the CDC, we no longer know how viruses spread in the US which means everybody could be a carrier. THAT is the problem we’re discussing - something that would have been obvious to you, had you pulled your head out of your arse, Mr Genius.
Between 1 February 2024 and 31 January 2025, a total of 32 265 people were diagnosed with measles in the European Union. During this period, Romania (27 568), Italy (1 097), Germany (637), Belgium (551) and Austria (542) reported the highest number of cases across the EU/EEA.
It’s time we stopped these diseased EU tourists from traveling and spreading the measles to all other countries!! Just like Alaknar suggests!!
Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?
Remind me again, how ineffective is the EU CDC in preventing measles and why should we allow you biohazards to travel outside of your borders?
It’s job is also to monitor and alert, and it’s doing exactly that.
The US just lost that capability.
Because you were too ignorant to clock my original link or understand what I was saying, here it is again
Between 1 February 2024 and 31 January 2025, a total of 32 265 people were diagnosed with measles. During this period, Romania (27 568), Italy (1 097), Germany (637), Belgium (551) and Austria (542) reported the highest number of cases across the EU/EEA.
ITS TIME WE LOCK DOWN THE EU AND PREVENT YOU FILTHY SWINE FROM TRAVELING TO OTHER COUNTRIES!!
Except I’m not an asshole like you.
P.S. can I say how embarrassing those numbers must be for you? You were so proud of your ‘spotless’ EU measles record…
Remind me again, how many of those countries have removed their equivalents of the CDC?
Look how petty you are, downvoting each comment I make because you can’t answer it with logic or reason. How sad it must be to live in your head.
Well, buddy, what you are basically saying is, if the EU are putting up those crappy measles numbers without a CDC, I guess that means America is just becoming MORE LIKE YOU GUYS.
So what’s your effin’ problem mate? You mad at the US for becoming more like the EU, is that your angle now? Haha your logic is just… so brilliant
Haha omg, look at you madly logging into other accounts to upvote your comments and downvote mine! That must be so much work for you, vs mounting an actual argument!
Well, buddy, what you are basically saying is, if the EU are putting up those crappy measles numbers without a CDC
The EU has “a CDC” - the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.
You should take a break, mate. Take some deep breaths, drink some tea, pull your head out of your arse, calm down.
The last time they did this, we had an outbreak in Wuhan.
258,000,000
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/05/trump-news-doj-fentanyl-pam-bondi-lives-saved.html
A spokesman for the DOJ responded with the following math:
1 kg of fentanyl * .1518 (current purity level) * 1000 (to convert to grams) / by .002 (amount needed for a deadly dose) = lethal dose of fentanyl
So, 3,400 Kg of fentanyl seized in Trump’s first 100 days
3400*.1518
*1000
/.002
=258,060,000 deadly doses
Correct. That’s how I initially figured it out.
Pam Bondi said 75% of Americans were saved. I laughed, that’s 268,500,000 people, then it hit me. I’ve heard a number of the population that the Heritage Foundation believes is a “good number of Americans.”
It was 100,000,000. Current population is 358,000,000. 89,500,000 is way too fucking close to 100,000,000 for it to be a coincidence. Then they started shutting life saving things down rapidly. They mentioned new census.
In another interview or maybe it was writing and I wish I could find it right now, “obviously executions would be a problem for the state, and would meet heavy resistance. Famine and disease happen all the time.”
The disease one is obvious. But famine is much more nuanced. Tarrifs. Cutting farmers off from their ability to fund their farms. Cutting the food programs. Inflation in eggs. Think of how vital a source of nutrition eggs are.
This regime wants to make the excess death count higher than Hitler, Stalin, and Mao combined.
Of course, brain worms demand it
All hail to the worm!














