Yes.

Edit: Oh, also… It just kept getting more stupid.

Full on clown shoes.

I mean they were killing each other every opportunity they got so, maybe…

Say what you will about the modern day, but at least we don’t have a slave revolt so vicious and organized that it threatens the entire country

Yeah probably. Successive emperors selfishly fighting among themselves for power, weakening their Nation, destroying the Foundation of their state, making alliances with people that cannot be trusted, all that’s a Hallmark of the fall of Rome. Both Falls actually.

Just as an aside I don’t know why my voice to text is capitalizing certain words in that paragraph but I’m too lazy to fix it.

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Are you talking about the Fall of Rome the city or Rome the Empire?

From what I’ve heard from friends who have Rome as their special interest: yes.

After the murder of Pertinax on 28 March 193, the Praetorian guard announced that the throne was to be sold to the man who would pay the highest price. Titus Flavius Claudius Sulpicianus, prefect of Rome and Pertinax’s father-in-law, who was in the Praetorian camp ostensibly to calm the troops, began making offers for the throne. Meanwhile, Julianus also arrived at the camp, and since his entrance was barred, shouted out offers to the guard. After hours of bidding, Sulpicianus promised 20,000 sesterces to every soldier; Julianus, fearing that Sulpicianus would gain the throne, then offered 25,000. The guards closed with the offer of Julianus, threw open the gates, and proclaimed him emperor. Threatened by the military, the Senate also declared him emperor. His wife and his daughter both received the title Augusta.

Hegel remarks somewhere that all great world-historic facts and personages appear, so to speak, twice. He forgot to add: the first time as tragedy, the second time as farce.

-Marx

The fall of which Rome?

I still contend that this isn’t equivalent to the fall of the Empire. It’s equivalent to the fall of the republic and the rise of the empire.

The US isn’t dealing with Astragoths and Huns pillaging their cites. They’re dealing with an exceptionally stupid version of Caesar trying to usurp power and proclaim an empire.

Buckle up, America. If you don’t take care of this now, your in for about 437 more years of this shit.

…are you really comparing the fall of the great Roman Empire to what that joke of a ‘country’ called the separated states of Muricah?

This is sacrilege

Absolutely. The circus is the biggest tell of an empire crumbling.

I’d say this is par for the course. Technology has made it much more public and more rapid fire

Also the complexity of modern society resists change. We have layers of procedure, checks and balances, even logistical realities that slow or disperse the kind of blunt demands being made at the top

So there’s a lot of stupid but effective things they could do back then, where today the same things are stupid and pointless

I don’t think its fall was stupid. There is one book I’ve heard of from Edward Gibbon that explains why ancient Rome fell. It’s still there today, only in a different and more esoteric form.

It actually explains the prophecies in a particular religious text being fulfilled perfectly using the language of this text’s prophets as well.