• mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
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        3 months ago

        Are you trying to ‘both sides’ a rejection of ‘both sides?’

        It’s possible for allegedly-left-wing assholes to be conservatives at heart, and plainly-right-wing assholes to also be conservatives at heart. Like hey, maybe the root problem is conservatism, as a tribalist worldview.

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          3 months ago

          I’m clumsily pointing out that same logic can just as well be used by the other side to deny the problems in their camp. Maybe nobody should do it?

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            3 months ago

            ‘They could say that about you!’

            Yeah, but it would be wrong.

            If Shaq tells me ‘you’re short,’ DARVO’s not gonna get me very far, unless he picks my ass up and throws me.

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                3 months ago

                So the Nazis were socialists? I mean, they said so. Who am I to judge. Apparently.

                If you meant to say that I, personally, don’t get to unilaterally declare who’s in the club - because words mean things, and labels are either accurate or not - yeah, that is what I am saying. Anyone can point to tankies and say ‘you’re identarians who don’t seem to care about theory,’ and be right. Anyone can point to Illinois Nazis and say ‘you’re secretly antifa!,’ and be wrong. This is not a contradiction. You have to evaluate claims.

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      3 months ago

      We have not one but several entire instances filled with people like this. Hell, the DSA unendorsed AOC, of all people, for being insufficiently pro-Palestine.