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This picture being generated aside, do people just call all automation “AI” now because they can’t tell the difference?
Yes? Anything electronic is AI. Just like electricity used to be basically magic to people.
Human kind loves to blame things they don’t understand for 10x longer than it would take to learn about it.
Electricity is basically magic. It only seems mundane because we take it for granted. If sorcery, the force, investiture, or any other fictional magic system you could think of were real, we’d harness it, get used to it, and stop thinking of them as magic too.
Dont let familiarity diminish the sense of wonder. Understanding doesn’t make electricity less magical, it just makes you a wizard.
Sadly yes.
Lots of basic algorithms are now called AI
Back to the 90s, where in games you’d add in some AI opponents
“now”? AI as a field of research originates from the 60s, playing games of checkers and solving algebraic problems using what we’d now call “basic algorithms”.
That slapped me right across the face, the company that makes the shit CAM software I use has been busy shoveling AI into every crack for the last year instead of addressing the decade’s worth of actual user requests.
I hate everything about it.
a2 + b2=AI
I thought it was E = mc^2 + AI
Use our new AI agent to help you calculate Pythagoras - Some tech company
It’s like Pythagoras, but wrong half the time.
Remove the word AI from the meme and you will have people in the comment section totally in support of self-checkout and self-driving trains.
The reality of the situation is that you do want these things because they’re very popular you’re just painting it with the word AI making it unfavorable on this particular platform.
What other nonsense.
Trains are already as “self driving” as they can safely be and with how many people a train can move compared to how few people need to manage one, there’s already not much reason to go fully automate.
Denmark’s metro’s are fully automated and it’s amazing.
Automation is good, there’s just a teething period.
We mostly automated sewing and dishwashing which put people out of jobs, but in the long term it’s been good
Denmark’s metro’s are fully automated and it’s amazing.
how does its full automation make it amazing to you?
I can sit in front in a “fake cockpit” and look out the front window.
But more importantly they run like clockwork, there’s often a new metro every 7min they arrive and leave exactly when scheduled. I’m sure they also save money
realistically having a person onboard makes little difference at all to passengers (you regain a tiny bit of space at the front and end of each carriage segment where the driver usually sits - that’s about it). the argument is that they can run trains more frequently because the ongoing cost is lower so the only cost is an investment in rolling stock - generally seen as more viable because it’s an asset rather than just a cost
Kind of. It might be more fair that enshittification is making the traditional options less favorable.
I don’t specifically want to use self-checkout, but want to avoid the lines, hassle, slowness, and pushing affiliate cards that comes with a manned checkout these days. Self-checkout is only valuable in reference to how painful it is otherwise it.
Similarly trains : I don’t care what’s driving since I never come into contact with them but I prefer they not run off the tracks while texting and that they stop consistently. I especially hate when the ticket booth is empty and there’s no other way to pay. The kiosk is at least always there
Self checkouts have no downsides.
The downside is that you are responsible for scanning everything correctly. Where I live I’ve heard of people getting banned from a shop, because they accidentally forgot to scan small piece of ginger.
The downside is forcing a bunch of people through self checkout who need a cashier. Whenever you all talk about how great self checkout is, I wonder what mecca you live in. My only experiences with it are long lines and long waits caused by a number of factors:
-Many self checkout lanes closed because they think everyone is stealing and refuse to staff more than one person to watch over you
-Old people who can’t use technology and don’t want to be using the machines
-People who have entire carts and struggle to effectively scan their groceries on the tiny space allocated.
-Machines that scan painfully and artificially slow because they want to weigh every goddamn item to prove you aren’t stealing
-Machines that record you and yell at you for stealing if you move an item slightly awkwardly
I think You’ve only ever heard of a self checkout, not really seen one in real life.
Huh? I don’t understand this comment. Are you saying you think I’m lying? Lol. I mean more power to you if you’ve never experienced these self checkout logjams. I’m fine with them in concept, but the way a lot of the stores I’ve experienced use them makes it kinda unpleasant. Guess it’s regional.
The current ones suck. But yes, the concept is cool and I’m sure they’ll be perfected in the years to come.
Depends on the shop, out of the shops here Aldi have pretty good self checkouts and if I am only buying bread I don’t want to wait in line behind people with 50 items. But I have also seen other shops with terrible self checkouts that somehow can’t keep up and need to think about it for ages each time I put an item down.
20 years ago a cashier position in a grocery store was a well-paying union job with a pension. It could literally be your career. You could buy a house, raise a family, and retire from that position.
Reagan is already 40 years ago buddy. 2005 couldn’t do that for you.
Yeah, I’m talking about pre and post self-checkout. 2005 absolutely could have done that for you.
Damn! Which country do you reside in?
The U.S. We still had strong union grocery stores right up until automation hit. Then you get the big UFCW strike in California in 2003-2004, and what you’re left with is a store full of a bunch of people who are making middle class wages, but all new hires are making $8/hr with no benefits. Get on another 20 years, and that’s basically everybody working at a grocery store now.
Reaganomics absolutely blazed the trail, but self-checkout finished the job.
Cashiers in 2005 were making $7.25/hr, dude. At least in the US.
New hires were, yes. Because of automation (and position hybridization, the rise of the gig economy, despecialization, and the rise of Walmart, of course). This is exactly the point that I’m making.
Old contract new contract. When boomers sold the union so no one else wpuld get living wage, and they could keep their lifestyle.
I was lucky to have a supervisor when I started in 2006 who was open and honest, explaining why our holiday pay and schedules were so different (old contract new contract)… Still complicated, but no more raises or benefits.
He was making over 20/hr. I started at about 8 usd… 10 years later i worked another brief stint at the chain. Same starting wage. Probably didn’t go up until covid pressure.
Gen X got screwed out at the end of long union busting campeigns, and the rest of the shit rolled downhill.
This was my experience as well.
Fresh out of high school, I started working at a store that was union, but everyone in my generation was on a different contract from the people who had been there for 20+ years. A lot of the benefits paperwork that went out to everyone had to clarify different terms depending on whether you were hired before or after a certain date, with the terms for the “after” group usually being worse.
Unions in general are great and necessary, but bad unions are still out there.
Those fingers are definitely human fingers
Look’s like AI generated
The reinforcing structure of the bridge in the back looks super wonky. Calling AI with certainty
His fingers look unnaturally long. Unless the white board is new, there are no signs of previous smudges. White boards are smooth surfaces, so we should also see reflections in there. The bridge as — pointed out in the thread — looks super wonky. There should be taller buildings as well as seen in the image below.
Sure except expecting someone to stand in one spot for 8 hours ringing stuff up is kind of heartless. Surely there are more edifying ways for a human being to spend their time
That’s the same as any work cell job. Stamping press: load heavy part, hit your two buttons, take part out and stack it, repeat 8 hours.
That would be true if by utilizing the staffing cuts, they increased wages or lowered costs but instead they just pocket the profits.
Big fan of the self-checkout at the grocery store. And seeing this is Germany, 9 out of 10 shoppers would rather stand in the queue. Never a lineup at the self-check!
Its a trap though. If they had employees at all the lanes there wouldn’t be a lineup either. Our store has about 16 lanes and maybe 10 self checkout, the lanes are all closed except 2, so you ate forced to wait or self checkout. They are training you yo do your own labour for free.
Grab a scanner, scan while picking up items, pay and leave store.
It’s barely any extra “labor” and no need for useless jobs.
Ikea does this, you just need the app, no physical scanner. Super convenient.
You are doing the useless job for free though. At our store items don’t scan so you have to wait while one person tries to help 10 people so it ends up taking longer that going through a checkout.
Stuff would he cheaper if we get rid of cashiers. So I would actually be earning money.
Maybe stores should introduce a self scan discount.
Maybe, but there’s no guarantee. The price could also stay the same and the difference could go to shareholders instead
Maybe we should just stop having human employees, and wait for our AI overlords to turn us into Soylent green?
It won’t be, the store will just make more profit. Our dollar stores have gone full self checkout and prices have gone up.
But self scan discount makes sense
According to you logic, I shouldn’t even go to the store.
Why am I doing free labor when someone can pick it up and deliver it for me?
*This comment was typed delivered by a payed laborer
Yeah, if a company can deliver it for cheaper than your travel time and gas money, then yes delivery makes sense. Somebody gets to keep a job and you have better quality of life to spend it doing what you like.
Actually, I wouldn’t mind supermarket without cashiers. I’ll be my own, thank you very much.
And soon after that, you’ll be stocking your own shelves, then you’ll be driving the forklift in the back store…
Growing your own food!
Ok, point taken. You guys can have your people. I’ll take self checkout.
Yep too much work
Don’t tempt me with a good time!
With a toddler in tow, ain’t no way in hell I want to scan and bag a week’s worth of groceries all by myself.
For small shops of a couple items? I’ll absolutely going to go through the self-scans as they’re fast and convenient. But when spending the equivalent of ~$150USD across dozens of items - nah, fuck that noise. Especially when having to deal with any interventions because the machine vision gets confused by what’s happening on camera, or the weight sensor doesn’t correctly detect an item added.
Give me a cashier to scan and pack any day of the week.
Nah, I go through the self checkout even with the one-year-old in tow, and 15-20 items.
Wait until they’re 2+ and randomly adding things to the cart in the hopes you won’t notice!
If you still enjoy using the self-checkouts for bigger shops then - you might just be a masochist! 🤣
None of these things are AI this is just computer programming
Getting pretty tired of these AIgen generic “person holding sign” images. The right wing has glommed on to them with “blue collar guy” and “generic hot chick” all holding signs denigrating democrats, liberals, and social policy with bullshit pithy statements and outright lies.
Yeah whenever I see them I think what story are they trying to tell? Are we supposed to believe that this man decided, right, I want to post something online about $TOPIC, so I’ll get my whiteboard, write my post on that, go to the harbour, get someone to take a photo of me holding it up, and then I’ll upload that photo online so people can see what I think?
It’s like youtube videos, apparently people don’t understand what it is about if there isn’t a big face in it.
The point is to isolate you, that way your easier to manipulate with social media algorithms
The shadows and clouds reveal the realness of this picture.
Ok boomer
If all these things are replaced so people can spend more time with each other instead of working then I’ll gladly take it, but if it’s just for profit throw it out.
Though driverless trains I’ll take on purely financial grounds, should save up money for trains to keep coming after last call so the drunks can ride home safe
Ironically the writing looks kinda AI generated lol
it is AI generated.
Also ironic is that none of the listed automations require machine learning and there’s been hard coded technology for them for a while.
Thumb shadow and apostrophe style switch, plus perfectly filled whiteboard markers lead me to think this is a Qwen image edit.
They trained their model on text added to images, so it often pops above background stuff.
Plus this is an uncommonly shaped whiteboard marker to get this rounded style, and there are no lift marks.
Or he’s old enough to be able to been schooled in handwriting?
It’s the lighting of the board more than the handwriting that looks fake, although that is very clean handwriting if real.
I think it might be real. I agree that the lighting makes it look fake, I thought so too. But after looking at the lettering there are slight imperfections in some letters that would make sense if written by a marker. But I’m not the best judge of these things, my initial thought was fake/ai as well.
it’s AI
There’s nowhere that the opera house and Harbor bridge line up like that without something else being in frame.
The ground and fence behind him look more like they match the Opera House surrounds than that side of Farm Cove.
