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Yeah that issue has been around for at least a couple years now. Luckily my robovac doesn’t have WiFi or bluetooth
It has a clock display for time?
Why would anyone need a moving clock?
I meant on the station to schedule cleanups, e.g. recurring ones. Useful if the noise distracts you and you want it done when you’re not home kinda thing
That makes more sense.
To display time?
Nope. Just blacknwhite bezel face cover with a start button
Same. I will service and repair my goddamn 880 until it is DUST, dammit.
I used to be on a mailing list where American companies offered money to people in the third world for menial manual tasks. Like sending pictures of random crap from different angles and such. One time I got an email offering 4 of these things and $100 and all I had to do was put one of them in my home and use it for a week and give the other 3 away. Goes without saying they’re clearly a privacy nightmare.
Since I dont see it mentioned, the company is
iLife
iLife makes vacuums that map your house and can be remote controlled
Just so we are clear. You should all up your name and shame game.
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For real. It’s wild how often people don’t just straight up call out bad corps.
Could ya be sued, perhaps?
No
Just because it wouldn’t stick, doesn’t mean they can’t sue you and make your life more difficult. (Not saying you shouldn’t call out bad actors like that)
And when they sue its the time to come together and support the targets of their lawsuit to bring in the best of the best lawyers to take them down.
You always risk a punch in the face when standing up for yourself but that doesn’t mean you should just accept abuse.
Not even perhaps? Well, alrighty!
Implying the vast majority of roombas aren’t doing this
There’s no safe “opt-out” for people who cannae be arsed to vacuum lol
All modern robot vacuums do this. Amazon and Zillow actually buy that data too.
Oh crap. I had one. It committed suicide off the stairs
Maybe for the best.
iLife A11 smart vacuum
I live in a prefabricated home that is a different color than my neighbor’s. Can I gift them one of these robots to get a blueprint of their house? It is already easily googled but I feel that making a robot do it keeps them lower on the food chain.
I remember about news of some Israeli intelligence operatives who jogged around their HQ only to be outed by their tracks on Strava.
I remember army officers and cia folks, specifically. It wouldn’t surprise me that israel got caught as well.
I’ve been looking into robotic lawnmowers, and they’re basically the same. The more primitive ones have a hall effect sensor under their snout feeling for a wire you bury around the edge of your yard, and do the “go until you hit something, turn a random amount, repeat until low battery, follow perimeter to dock” or they require phoning home in some way, shape or form.
Meanwhile, some guy’s got an open source system that runs on a Raspberry Pi on the mower itself.
I guess I’m willing to believe that some of the LIDAR or camera-only guided mowers need some serious processing power to create the maps they use for guidance around the yard, and that’s more practical to do on the company’s servers than on the device itself…except not really; we’ve got decently powerful ARM SoCs that don’t cost much, don’t take a lot of power to run, and can do that job. The reality is, you can’t get a pedometer app for a smart phone that doesn’t broadcast sensor telemetry to two continents these days.
or…just buy a vacuum cleaner and vacuum your house? you don’t need smart devices for everything.
Robot vacuum is like the best thing we have invented in the last 10 years
I just use a vacuum or a broom. Cheaper, cheaper to replace, and free exercise
I bet you wash your clothes by hand too
No I use a washing machine, just not that smart crap.
Vacuuming your place while you go get groceries is pretty nice, according to my late mother. And her favorite feature was: the thing easily fit under the bed, so she didn’t have to remind herself she was not as spry as she used to be.
Sorry life is busy If you have responsibilities, that’s why you live like me and just retire early on social assistance.
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Well, yes, that’s what those cheap “smart” devices do. Or does anyone think cheap smart would fit into that device? Rule of thumb: if a device needs internet access, it is spying on you.
!homeassistant@lemmy.world on a isolated vLAN is my goal for “Smart” devices.
Yes, but some devices simply don’t work without calling home, or have 99% of their brain in a cloud. For those cases, the vLAN does not help.
Thankfully there are groups to replace boards or flash some devices. I need to keep better bookmarks to plug them.
There’s a version of every device that doesn’t phone home. I switched to HomeAssistant a couple years ago now, and I think all of my stuff is finally local as of a few months ago, including my robot vacuum.
Then don’t buy those devices. If you have any excuse as to why you “can’t do that”, then there’s zero point in complaining. I’m not saying your complaints are invalid, and companies should be held accountable and criticised. But as long as people buy privacy violating products, companies will continue to violate privacy.
Very valid and true point, but that requires companies to openly admit that they’ve made their devices to not work if it can’t phone home, and no company is gonna do that. At best, they’ll tell you it needs internet access, but even then they’ll probably downplay it.
Either that or some poor sacrifice will have to be the guinea pig and buy the thing to test it and tell others. Ah, I guess Consumer Reports could do that at least.
valetudo.cloud/
“secret”. Sweet summer child, you’ve been mapped down to your quarks for decades, and building plans have been at Town Hall since… Louis XIV?
It reminds me of when Google added everyone’s phone numbers to search. Everyone freaked out. “What do you mean anyone can find my number?!” And this is back when phone books were ubiquitous.
It’s pointless now as anyone actually making a call (scammers) buys numbers from providers or other thieves. But it’s really interesting how publicly available data being more publicity available can be scary.
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Yes and who’s doing that with your wifi. They had to set it up.
If you have a robot vacuum, and the robot vacuum makes a persistent map (as opposed to the older “dumber” models that just bounce around randomly), they all send that map back to some remote server. In fact, most of those robots won’t even enable the mapping feature unless they’re connected to the Internet (which is absolute bullshit considering most of those robots generate, process, and store that map locally, so there’s literally no reason to send it off somewhere).
So your options are to just use the robot without ever connecting it to the Internet and be happy with the reduced featureset, root the robot and install Valetudo on it, or just vacuum manually. But until manufacturers are forced to let us actually own the smart devices they sell is, under no circumstances should you ever let one touch the Internet.
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