• frog_brawler@lemmy.world
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    26 days ago

    It wont. Every time I go to the range, I’m still the youngest dude there as a 42 year old.

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        26 days ago

        Not on Saturday, but it also wouldn’t be unreasonable to assume they cannot afford it. That shit adds up.

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      26 days ago

      That just means old guys have all the guns, but they can only hold one of them at a time.

      They are old. Push them over, and take their guns.

      All those guns out there? We’re going to take them away, and use them. And the supply is endless.

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        26 days ago

        This may come as a shocker to some people, but you actually need to practice shooting in order to to be effective.

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          I’ve been shooting all my life, it’s not that hard. I’ve never understood the challenge. You got sights, line them up, hold your breath, and squeeze between heartbeats. Do it few times, and you get the hang pretty quick.

          All my friends are amazed at my shooting, and I have terrible eyesight. I occasionally will put a round through a previous hole in the target. It’s not that hard, I’ve taught it to lots of people with great results. Even people who think they already know how to shoot have improved. It’s shocking how many people don’t know to hold their breath while shooting. I think it’s because a lot of people start breathing harder when they have a gun in their hand, heartbeat goes up, etc.

          Keeping your cool while rounds are coming at you at the same time? That’s a bit more challenging. But hitting a static target can be picked up in a single session. You might not make consistent head shots, but body mass shots will be good enough.

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            26 days ago

            Well on the topic of anecdotal stories, the first time I shot a rifle, when I was 38 (just like a lot of people who haven’t been shooting their entire lives) I missed paper at 25 yards. I didn’t know how to zero the sights, even though I had watched YouTube videos explaining it. I needed to get some help from someone else that was at the range.

            Second time I went shooting, I found out that somehow my BCG was re-installed wrong after I cleaned it, consistent failure to eject.

            Noob mistakes. There’s a lot of people that are completely noobs. You’ve shot your whole life; but you need to realize a lot people that you and I likely agree with have probably never even held a rifle, let alone shot one.

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              Valid, and to clarify, nearly all of target shooting has been handguns. I’m not a hunter, so I haven’t had that much experience with long guns, which are much more complicated. Handguns are generally just point and shoot. The safety is the only real complication.

              I got a lot of my experience in a buddy’s basement. He was jeweler, and his workbench was in this enormous basement of his ranch house. It was so long, that he actually set up a shooting gallery in it, firing at targets taped onto a big box of old phone books. He’d work on jewelry, and I’d shoot until I got bored, and then I’d go dig through his box of loose jewels, and look for the prettiest ones. I love rubies, sapphires, and emeralds. I think I’m off topic here, nice talking to you.

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        26 days ago

        Pass, although I agree with the idea of it. Joined SRA in 2022 and they took my $35, sent me an invite to a discord channel and never contacted me ever again.

        As someone that doesn’t like using discord… I’m not doing that again.

        • HopeOfTheGunblade@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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          26 days ago

          “I refuse to go where young people are, and never see any young people!”

          Absolutely live the life of your choice, but if you opt out of going where a set of people are, you are less likely to encounter that set.

          Not saying the SRA couldn’t have done better here, because they absolutely could’ve, but our ass is 40-mumble-mumble, and we talk to leftist gun folks of youth online every day.

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          Oof, that sounds terrible I’m sorry to hear that, and it’s good to know. I really hate the trend of lazy reliance on Discord as the sole means of communication. :(

          Same vibe as when some community solely operates out of a Facebook group. Yuck.

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          Signing up for anything socialist costs a lot. I dont know if you ever thought you’d have use for an elevated government security clearance, but your signing up for that association will be the subject of any security clearance interviews now, and the interviewer will lean toward disqualifying you for it.

          I guess public service as a career choice isn’t on a lot of peoples minds these days. Which, speaking as a member of the public, is too bad.

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        How do you think an unarmed mob of people can fight the most militarised nation on earth? There are nations like Egypt with more corruption and repression than the US that have successfully prevented any kind of insurrection due to its strong military.

        In the US, the police, military and other armed forces (ICE) all mainly consist of literal nazi’s. I think you don’t realise how bad things will get if the liberal opposition keeps making the bad choices that have made them as weak as they are now.

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          26 days ago

          Allow me to introduce you to the concept of a general strike.

          Besides, militaries are far more likely to side with the people than the government in a situation like this.

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          26 days ago

          America and France both liberated their nations against two of the most powerful military nations in the world, with governments that were far more hostile toward their people.

          Firepower is not the most dangerous weapon in a Revolution, ideas are, because they can’t be killed. MAGA will never win, because the more oppressive they are, the more support they’ll lose, even among their own followers, and even among the military. America is too large a country, and if MAGA pushes us to the breaking point, which getting closer everyday, they will be overwhelmed quickly.

          A nation this large, unleashed in a national riot against the wealthy, sabotaging, destroying, burning, looting, killing, would be very, very bad for them. The mayhem would be everywhere, and military and law enforcement couldn’t handle it all. Law enforcement would be overrun within a week, and be ineffective, possibly worse.

          The Sociopathic Oligarchs would run to their bunkers. We’ll deal with them later. First we have to deal with all the run-of-the-mill Oligarch wannabes, who are finding out that they aren’t rich enough to be invited to a bunker somewhere, but they are still considered the problem, and they will be dealt with harshly, as examples. Thought a little money made you better than regular humans? You will be reminded that you are not.

          If you are a regular millionaire, you better start supporting Democrats and start fighting MAGA, because MAGA is going to get you and your family killed.

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            26 days ago

            Don’t blind yourself with the idea that the US is somehow different than all other nations with oppressive regimes. There is a real possibility that the US moves further and further into fascism and not taking that risk seriously will ensure it becoming a reality.

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    26 days ago

    Shhhhh don’t warn the other rich. There’s already gonna be a lot of bunkers to break into.

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    If he’s lucky, he might survive it, but if he keeps greeding unrepentantly, he might not

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    26 days ago

    It will lead to civil war between the progressives that want to maintain the liberal order and conservatives who want to regress

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    25 days ago

    Well off working man warns the capitalist class the consequences of stiffing the working class.

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    Good. We’re tired of billionaires hoarding OUR wealth, the wealth WE created, as well as the politicians paid by and for those same billionaires rigging the system on their behalf.

    As any Marxist-Leninist knows though, the best time to strike the revolution is after you’ve gained the support of the public and elucidated class consciousness. We need more Leftists in political power first spreading the message of class warfare before we get there.

    Because otherwise this “revolution” will be entirely selfish and unorganized and will make it harder to get anything accomplished.

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    I’m not convinced they couldn’t use one right about now. Not like the current govt appears able to sort out the problems on it’s own, after all.

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      You say that…like that changes anything.

      He’s already declared martial law by sending in military units to cities. He’s already done it.

      What the fuck do we have to lose?

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        Exactly as I’m seeing it. And I armed and practicing. Not saying, “I have a bunch of guns and ammo so I’m a tough guy!”

        Anyway, went to camp today and sent some .556 armor-piercing down range. Sight is good enough for me, good enough for 100’. Did you know that green-tips drill holes in 1/4" steel? I didn’t! Walked down to look at my target and it looked like I took a drill press to it!

        Anyway, unidentified, warrantless, masked men are targets in my book. Police patches? LOL, anyone can buy those on Amazon. Want a link?

        They’re not here yet, but I have eyes on.

        Yes, I’ll almost certainly die. No, I’m not letting them take my brown, legal wife.

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          you wont last long. your best bet is to lay down those arms and come out with your hands up.

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            you wont last long. your best bet is to lay down those arms and come out with your hands up.

            …said the Nazi to the Jew.

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            “Do Not Split”

            Learned about it from this episode of the Team Human podcast

            But what is happening in Hong Kong is they come up with a slogan, which is translated as Do Not Split, which is, we know that some people are willing to be confrontational with riot police.

            And when they are, that’s going to cost the state in terms of not only resources, but it’s going to cost the state in terms of political capital and support. And we know that there are some people who are not willing to do that. And we are going to abide by the protocol of Do Not Split, which means that we’re not going to criticize them openly, and they’re not going to criticize us openly.

            If we’re the pacifists, we’re not going to have them criticize us for being sort of like, I don’t know, limpid or flaccid or not courageous or whatever. And we’re not going to criticize them for being more confrontational. And the thing is that the support is also tacit.

            It’s not like they have to come out and tell the media, oh, we approve of our more sort of confrontational colleagues. They just keep quiet. They just keep quiet.

            Understanding that a range of tactics is probably going to be necessary. Nobody really knows what’s going to work. But if everybody’s pushing back against a particularly violent state, then everybody’s really on the same side.

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          Your comment fills me with a deep dread that causes me to feel like saying something to discourage you from this path. Alas, it’s not your preparation that is causing that feeling, but the grim circumstances that necessitate this kind of planning.

          It’s difficult being on the other side of the world and completely unable to do anything than just watch as America descends deeper into fascism. However, I’m glad that I am not in the impossible position of making the decisions you’re making. I’m sorry that you are.

          Good luck, I hope you don’t die. And I hope that people like you are able to claw back democracy from the fascists

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      What if some states secede?

      "My friends and fellow Californians, this is not a secession from the United states of America because the United states of America no longer exists.

      Because while Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient Causes, our country has suffered a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evincing a Design to reduce us under absolute Despotism, and thus it is our Right, it is our Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for our future Security."