“I’m szwowyz, pwetty pwease overlook my choices and beliefs thus far and elect me again”
Would be dope if she actually turns over a new leaf. Im not willing to bet anything on it, but I’m willing to engage in a bit of cautious optimism and see if she lives by those words over the next few years
@vegeta okay. Well done Marjorie. It’s an admirable sentiment to express. But a lot of damage has already been done and I wouldn’t be surprised if most Americans would feel it hard to trust that promise. But let’s see how the next few years pan out. It should never be too hard to rebuild trust, but you have your work cut out for you, Marjorie. Best of luck.
She’ll never have my vote for any number of reasons, but to see anyone as deep in the maga cult as her demonstrate any amount of growth… even if she falls back into old patterns at some point… it says something hopeful about steering this ship away from our current course if even she can gain the self awareness and humility to regret participating in these vitriolic forms of politics. Maybe, then, our parents and neighbors can see enough of the light to realize what this is bringing about, where we’re headed, and have the humility to admit that they need to stop and to do better. It’s only the smallest glimmer of hope, but it’s more than my increasingly cynical ass has had in a minute. Keep working on yourself Marge, but glad to see the baby steps being taken.
Hey, better late than never, great that you finally realize the damage you’ve done.
However, not everyone deserves redemption.
Glad to hear you have had this epiphany, no matter how you came to it. I’ll be the first to say “good for you!” if you prove your sincerity by dropping out of politics and donating the substantial monetary gains you made via your influence and insider knowledge to worthy charities, preferably those helping people you harmed by your toxic influence. Then, having proved that you’ve really changed, you may legitimately continue speaking out against political hate and violence as a penance.
So did she apologize for pushing stupid rhetorics, or misleading her followers. Or even admitting she got conned?!?
She’s getting bullied by MAGA now, so yeah obviously she’s now against intimidation and toxic rhetoric lol. Fuck that nazi, she still hates everyone: black people, immigrants, lgbtq+, “wokes”, Don’t be foul by that bleach-blonde-fascist-bitch. Do not trust these people, they will betray you.
This is a good start. I still hope she leaves office and is never heard from again, but maybe her doing this will open the door for some more maga to find there way out of the cult.
Adding “and a christian” makes the rest of that sign redundant.
Kinda crazy thing to say.
It’s nuts you’re getting down voted for this statement. Christianity actually teaches it’s followers to not be traitors or liars. But I guess we ARE on Lemmy, haha.
I don’t see much evidence of that.
Cool add her to the list of people who I’ll wait for to resign and make reparations for the harm and suffering and death her lies and ignorance and hate caused. Any day now, right.
Why do you want them to resign when they could use their position to make things better?
Because nobody should trust what she says until her actions align with her apology and not more lies from someone who is just trying to hang on to the wealth and power they gathered by being a terrible person.
What makes you think her replacement will be any better?
What makes you think she is telling the truth now after years of lying to acquire wealth and privilege? If she is actually sorry then there will be actions taken to correct the awful things she’s done and not just apologies. Thinking she’s the only one who can fix it is a continuation of narcissism and hubris that led to the apology in the first place. The district she represents has around 800k people last census, none are qualified and have a better moral compass demonstrated by a voting history seems a long stretch.
She’s just going to push her own brand of awful. Don’t think for a second that she’s grown a conscience. Probably going to make a run for prez, hardline dictator instead of stupid dictator.
She’s looking at the next election.
Run for prez…
I just saw a quote from Michelle Obama, along the lines of the US isn’t ready for a woman president. MO might be correct, so yeah let’s have MTG run for pres. to dilute the GOP votes.
I just saw a quote from Michelle Obama, along the lines of the US isn’t ready for a woman president
Probably just making excuses for why the awful candidate her husband helped force onto the ballot failed at the most winnable presidential election since the two previous ones.
It’s looking more realistic. Twice now American voters have picked the absolute worse person imaginable over a woman.
The first time we can excuse with ignorance, but the second time around there was no excuse. We knew what he did the first round and he’s doing it again for a second.
The only logical explanation I can find is there is a subsection of the population unwilling to vote for a woman.
Obviously yes each campaign had it’s issue we can go into, but when you look at the opposition it’s hard to find the logic
Twice now American voters have picked the absolute worse person imaginable over
a womanan awful candidate who refuses to consider the wants and needs of the base and happened to be a woman.Fixed it for you. While I’d never go to such ridiculous lengths as to say that sexism isn’t a serious systemic problem, that’s not why Hillary and Kamala lost.
It wasn’t that people aren’t ready for a female president. It was that the vast majority of people to the left of fascism are more than ready for a president that listens to them more than to owner donors, strategists stuck in 1992, and other unrepresentative power brokers
The only logical explanation I can find is there is a subsection of the population unwilling to vote for a
woman“Centrist”Fixed it for you again.
Nobody except the aforementioned owner donors, strategists stuck in 1992, and other unrepresentative power brokers want “Republican mild” candidates with no substance except an almost religioud reverence for the broken system that has enabled them to fail upwards for decades.
Obviously yes each campaign had it’s issue we can go into
Understatement of the decade.
when you look at the opposition it’s hard to find the logic
Not really no. When you consider the following, it makes a sick sort of sense:
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Republicans are many times more effective at messaging. This is mainly because they’re much less likely to be constrained by such details as objective reality, ethics, and authenticity, but their propaganda is nonetheless MUCH more effective than the thrice-measured sound bytes of the Dem leadership.
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In the vast majority of states, it’s MUCH more difficult and time consuming to vote in the kinds of neighborhoods that skew more Blue and diverse than Red and filthy rich.
During covid, the number of absentee ballot dropoff points in the most populous county in Texas (Harris, almost 5 million) was decreased to ONE, all the while country clubs of a hundred members still had their own official polling station and even impoverished Red areas are typically rural so there’s not many people per polling station
- The combination of 1, 2, and other election tampering means that it takes a LOT more to get the entire Dem base to vote than for the Fascist Party base.
As a result of this, Dems NEED a candidate that’s inspiring enough that even the most jaded will go way above and beyond the amount of effort it SHOULD take in order to vote for them.
Neither Hillary nor Kamala was anywhere close to being that candidate and they wouldn’t have been if they were men either.
And before you go “but the man Biden won! Checkmate!”, I’d like to remind you that he actually won the popular vote by a smaller margin than Hillary did, and that he did so during an active pandemic that the incumbent fascist had been failing to manage so spectacularly that anything other than a landslide victory would be extremely worrying for the future of the Dem party.
I love the argument that the Dems must run the ideal canidate to beat an 80 year old fascist. That the reason Americans picked hate isn’t because they could possibly be prejudiced against women, but that they just don’t like centrists and need to be more inspired to do anything.
I think the answer is plainly far too many Americans are too hateful.
Also love the “no you can’t use the example of the male centrist winning because that would make my point bad”, solid argument
Now credit where credit is due I do think a progressive canidate would have had a much better chance. I just also believe there are too many old, sexist, hateful Americans that will never vote for a woman. Hopefully they die out and that changes
I love the argument that the Dems must run the ideal canidate
You may, but that’s not the argument I made. Please refrain from strawmen and other logical fallacies if you can.
That the reason Americans picked hate isn’t because they could possibly be prejudiced against women, but that they just don’t like centrists and need to be more inspired to do anything.
Again with the strawmen. Misrepresenting my argument isn’t a good way to bolster your own.
I think the answer is plainly far too many Americans are too hateful
Sure, you’d think that if you willfully ignore all of the contributing factors I and others have ever mentioned beyond “fascists are just voluntarily bad for no reason other than being bad” 🙄
Also love the “no you can’t use the example of the male centrist winning because that would make my point bad”
Again with the strawman. The male Centrist BARELY scraping by against the most hated incumbent in history SUPPORTS my argument.
You either have the reading comprehension of a toddler or the capacity for arguing in good faith of a Republican politician, so I’m not gonna waste any more time on your willfully obtuse ass. Have the day you deserve
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Senate. She wants a Senate seat, and Trump wouldn’t endorse her due to the fact she’s been constantly wanting to release the Epstein files.
Granted, I don’t think she believed that Trump was in the files, until he went ape shit about it.
She worshiped Trump, and still holds all the ridiculous and evil beliefs from before, but now her god has betrayed her.
And I say good.
Trump is likely going down, with or without her, so I say without.
Well according to that email, he’s already went down at least once
Hey dont push it, a Greene-Fuentes ticket probably would beat Newsom-Buttigieg, definitely would win against Harris and whatever cursed soul she picks as a running mate
She’ll fool enough people to have a good chance of keeping her seat at least
And if the Dems don’t mount a REALLY effective campaign and candidate, she might be the leading bet for who’s gonna win.
She is the ONLY one left who captures even a sliver of Trump’s base. But she also has the appeal of people thinking they’re making a “liberal” choice with her. And make no mistake, most of the country does not follow politics or drama and know zilch about her, only that she sounds “down home country” the way she talks and she don’t wanna associate wit dat there Trump fellow after he diddled dem kids.
When media and interviews turn their eyes to her and start grilling her on the batshit things she said like jewish space lasers and so on, it will only serve to launch her higher in viewership and attention. Trump won on this tactic and Dems still worry about a “perfect candidate” who will preserve the status quo that nobody cares about outside their dusty halls of ancient pageantry and old money.
We are SO fucked.
I think enough of the MAGA base is incapable of voting for a woman that she starts in a pretty deep hole even within her party. I don’t see her getting the nomination, and if she does I see her struggling to inspire turnout in the general. Sexism impacted both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, and will be even harder for a GOP candidate to overcome.
If that is what you think, you are 40years and 2 steps behind. Misogynistic rhetoric hasn’t been en vogue since the 80’s, and if you think Hillary or Kamala lost only because they were women, you really don’t have anything useful to say and instead are leaning on the trope of “common wisdom.”
There’s literally a movement within MAGA to repeal the right of women to vote. Yes, I absolutely believe that the misogyny is present in today’s GOP. Further, multiple polls and other research studies have found that a significant number of voters in the US does not support the idea of a woman for president. Here are a few references:
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/1532673X251369844
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4782780-americansready-female-president-dipping-survey/
Anecdotally, Michelle Obama recently observed the same thing: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5607777-michelle-obama-us-not-ready-woman-president/
And if you combine her observation with the GOP views on women as president reflected in this pew research poll (notably “Republicans (86%) are twice as likely as Democrats (43%) to say it is not at all or not too important if they ever see a woman elected U.S. president”), I think there’s ample reason to believe that a Republican candidate for president would struggle to gain support from a statistically relevant group of voters.
And no, I do not think that Clinton And Harris lost only because they’re women. I did not say that at. Evidence suggests that misogyny was one of many factors, though.
Sexism impacted both Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris, and will be even harder for a GOP candidate to overcome.
What with the hypocrisy and shifting goalposts for MAGA/GOP types, a female Trump 2.0 would seem quite plausible to my eyes. These types don’t care for conserving anything in particular nor for standing up afor any fixed set of values. They are, quite literally going along with the flow.
“I would like to say, humbly, I’m sorry for taking part in the toxic politics; it’s very bad for our country,” Greene said. “It’s been something I’ve thought about a lot, especially since Charlie Kirk was assassinated.”
Huh, I didn’t consider that might be a reason for her “change of heart.” Was the first time she started saying things that made sense after he was shot?
It’s not a change of heart on white christian nationalist policymaking, so her rhetoric means fuck all.
Yeah, that’s why it’s in quotes.
Yeah, I’m curious too - I’ve largely ignored her, so I have no idea if her language changed after Kirk.
Apparently she started before it happened. Maybe she really was self-aware enough to see what Trump’s endgame would be.
