The reason I am asking is because I saw a lot of women who look great after surgeries and I see nothing wrong with them, but when I browse Reddit I see people hating on them so hard, why?
They hate 'em cause they ain’t 'em. Most cosmetic surgery looks good, and you just don’t notice it. And then these people get treated nicer and go farther in life, because good looking people garner more support and sympathy than less good looking people.
Depends on who you ask. But I can see why it goes against the values of various groups.
I don’t hate it, your body your choice. In excess it looks silly but I don’t have to look.
Dunno… why do people hate fake money so much?
Bcus peops hate wen others do things with their own bodies , specially wen those surgeries (or any other body modification) don’t conform to societal expectations
I will tell you from personal experience it sure makes you feel a certain way when your insurance denies a treatment for a life-threatening condition and that same system says that unnecessary treatments are a fine use of resources.
Cosmetic or elective procedures aren’t covered by insurance though. If you mean resources like doctors, I agree somewhat, but insurance denying/underpaying/jamming access to essential procedures to force profit is a separate issue, and a much bigger one.
Some cosmetic procedures are covered. Eg, reconstructive surgery after a car crash.
have you tried being richer? i hear that drastically changes how your insurance feels about your operations.
gee I don’t know, maybe it’s because these poster children are bonkers?
For me it is just manipulating your natural beauty. Hollywood conditions nearly all women that they must look attractive or risk losing roles that exist only based on attractiveness. So you see actresses like Kate Beckingsale or Lindsay Lohan doing this for some roles.
It’s different than needing to get rid of loose skin from losing a lot of weight.
I think it might be similar to CGI in movies: you do not notice those good ones, they blend in and look natural. But you DO notice those that went wrong or way too far.
Yep. The “Uncanny Valley” is deep, and it is not limited to robots and mannequins.
Because it perpetuates the myth that you’re somehow a bad person if you show signs of aging.
…there is a myth like that?
Women and men are not supposed to hold the secret to beauty for infinite amount of years, for actors and actresses who are dependent on their looks, they would always have the choice to stop being dependent on their looks or improve their looks.
The choice is not related to any sort of culture, but the consumption choices of consumers.
If a person liked the look of another person in their 20s, they don’t need to like their looks forever in their 40s and 50s.
This feels like not really the reason.
Tell me, why is this “improving” their looks? You’ve just proven my point.
Probably a lot of noise coming from the incels.
Because to me I see it as wearing a mask and faking who you are.
I also feel the same with makeup but worse (chemicals that destroy your skin).
Makeup is “chemicals that destroy your skin”? What on earth.
Petrochemicals. Used because cheap, but almost all have carcinogen or even hormonal properties. Beauty produce is barely regulated almost everywhere.
I don’t hate the people who got cosmetic surgeries done on themselves, but I hate the culture that made them feel like they needed them. I also think it often just doesn’t look good.
On Lemmy and Reddit? See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar-a-Lago_face
“Excessive” obvious cosmetic surgery became a status symbol, and then it got politicized.
That kind of hate is almost definitely coming from other women. I’d say that from an evolutionary psychology perspective, it’s about them raising the bar for everyone by going the extra mile to look pretty. It’s the same idea as is behind slut-shaming: if you’re giving sex too easily, then it starts being expected from us too. Or if your neighbor buys a new car, now suddenly your own car feels devalued and you resent them for it.
That kind of hate is almost definitely coming from other women. I’d say that from an evolutionary psychology perspective, it’s about them raising the bar for everyone by going the extra mile to look pretty.
There is a lot of suppositions going on. First, that there is actually a significant amount of ‘hate’ being expressed (see my other comment to the op). Then, that any of that cosmetic surgery actually ‘raises the bar’ (and make any woman look ‘prettier’) compared to, let’s call them non-surgically modified or ‘non-enhanced’ women. Then, that those ‘enhanced’ women are in anyway more successful in what they want to achieve compared to those other women. Finally that those other women feel in way threatened by that group. It could also be interesting to consider what we consider as cosmetic surgery (and not), how this has developed, and since what time.
In regard to the usefulness of cosmetic surgery as a way to mate/date (which I imagine is one of the main reasons why anyone would do it) I can only speak for myself, aka as an old dude that has been in a relationship for more than 20 years. But even when I was a lot younger, when I was a lot less focused on any single person in my life, I never dated a woman that had ‘raised’ the bar you mentioned. It was not what I was looking for in a woman. And I would be curious to get data on how many of those women manage to find a partner and then to keep it compared to the other women?
I had preferences but outside of those ‘couple nights fun times’, a lot more important to me than the look was (and would still be) an interesting personality, aka a woman with as much brains as possible. Brains could not and still can’t be surgically enhanced so, obviously, the kind of women I was seriously interested in were the ones willing to put it in the actual time and efforts to make their brains ‘look’ better ;)
Any other type of ‘enhancement’ to me looked like a serious waste of precious time, and resources.
Maybe I was completely wrong and maybe it’s just me being odd? Could very well be. I remember as a teen, I had a few pictures of girls on the walls of my room taken out of magazines. Most of them were not top models or actresses they were… female writers and artists I admired and they were pinned alongside (at least as many) male ones. I fantasized a lot more about meeting people like Virginia Woolf (Still one dream of mine, to this very day) and Jane Austen (or, say, my dear Flaubert and Tolstoy) than with any actress or top model… no matter how ‘perfect’ they (or their boobs) looked like in the magazines.
Excess vanity is not a good look.
