Piracy is the response when companies refuse to serve market needs.
I mean, there will always be people trying to get something for free when they normally have no problem affording it or obtaining it personally. It’s why the Parasite Class continue to drive down wages while raising prices for that sweet labour-free profit margin, even though they already have obscene amounts of wealth. Their boundless greed demands they squeeze even more out of the Working Class whose labour is the source of all wealth.
So yeah, there we’ll always be some people who will pirate purely for the fish.
But in the end, any significant piracy is 100% the fault of those very companies that complain about it.
I am in the process of moving to pc from ps. I wont buy the same games again, it doesnt make sense to me. Where it is cheap and easy I have done but I feel I bought the right to buy them and also I hate some of the features with logins and always on connections.
it’s consistent, quick, and dependable. There’s no reason to use anything else. I get the original purpose was for people in countries with slow internet connections but now everyone just uses it.
It’s harder to use on Linux, and lower-performance devices. I would prefer prefer having dumps of the pre-installed game folder to use on a steam deck, for example.
I also have problems on Linux. I’ve tried a few different methods, but ultimately, they always end up seeming to freeze and make no further progress after a certain point.
As someone trying to move to Linux this year, what issues are there? I’ve heard this before, but I never see an explanation on what makes it difficult.
Proton can handle the game files but not the installer. So you have to install in wine and it’s a hassle. I install the games on my windows pc, zip them and then transfer them to my deck.
At that point perhaps it’s easier to just not use FitGirl’s releases.
Since Fitgirl’s installer just unpacks stuff, I just use the same prefix for all installers. Protontricks/wine lets you specify a path in the Z:/ drive as well (the linux base system), so no need to move stuff.
I even made a dummy exe file that does nothing and added that as a non steam game that works as a catch-all prefix for whatever I need to run without adding it as a non steam game first.
Huh? I add the installer to steam, use proton and install. No problem.
The fitgirl unpacker and installer? Tbh I never tried, everyone on the web simply said it didn’t work.
Everything. Installer then the game. I switch install path also so I can find the damn game after it is installed. Not doing this is… Complicated.
You’re missing the point. The other user is highlighting why your typical player would go with those repacks. And, well, your typical player doesn’t use Linux (…yet - Microsoft is fixing this real fast.)
(I typically use johncena141, but I don’t recall having problems with FitGirl.)
I use it all the time on linux, what problems did you have?
I mainly had trouble on the steam deck, in the early days. Most people recommended unpacking on a windows PC and transferring the files back then. It might be easier now, but it is more trouble than a game dump.
What’s your process for running the unpacker executable? Maybe it depends on the game, but I set up a wineprefix through Lutris and always seem to run into issues getting it to complete properly without any unpacking errors.
Here are some tips for FitGirl installers on linux:
The last time I used one, I had to edit some paths in a .md5 file to get the hash verification to work.
For the setup:
Final Edit: The wine prefix is the same for the games and the installer, just a windows subsystem that has all the dependencies.
First I install the wine-cachyos package, create a WINEPREFIX variable for the folder i want to put the prefix in, then i run winecfg to start the prefix, then I install the dotnet packages and vcredist packages through (before, when the repos existed) these links for the vcredist and dotnet (maybe archive.org or somewhere else still have the executables), or using winetricks too, but these are nicer to use as they install everything in one go.
Then I install the dxvk and vkd3d (you can install through lutris, so this is kinda useless hahaha).
Then I run the fitgirl repack through lutris and click to install the vcredist or .net when asked.
Then I just run the game with a runner or wine-cachyos.
I’ll update this with valid links when I find them.
Edit: last time I used this and this, installing just the .net runtimes, not directx, java, silverlight, etc.
winetricks should be able to install all of those dependencies, including versions of .net and vcredist. But it’s a terminal script, so requires the environment variables that Wine uses for the paths and stuff.
Yeah, remembered that wrong, thanks for the correction! Corrected it in my comment.
winecfg can add drives too, I always put an U: to /home/username , that makes it easier to pick a better location to install the game files (in my case, to ~/Games). A lot of things can be tweaked with winetricks and winecfg hahaha.
I think WINEPREFIX is all those tools need. Lutris can use that too (if i remember correctly).
EA: please take it out of the game.
They seem to work fine for me on Linux? Only thing is that stupid isdone.dll error but that’s easily fixed using a different runner
Which is kinda positive because that mean faster torrents
i’m surprised, i just thought if you couldn’t afford a game these days you waited till it was 90% off on steam
I thought there was something like patient gamers who only played games a year after release or something like this but I can’t find it
I used to, but steam is based in a banana republic where I don’t want to send a single avoidable cent anymore. I stopped buying anything from steam months ago. Haven’t gotten a new game since, but I will look into gog, who are based in Europe if I am not mistaken.
What do you mean?
He’s boycotting US business.
^
Steam doesn’t release every game in every market, do they?
Still is more than a dollar so would rather play first and pay later when I’m not having to go to the food bank.
I was checking this year and most of the things I want from a few years ago are still at 50%. But I don’t have enough time to play everything so I won’t likely pirate new stuff even though I very much know how to do so safely.
Hell, new games aren’t even competing with just each other- I’ve had a blast playing a lot of PS2 and PSP this year. When you don’t give in to hype and peer pressure, you’ve got near limitless options for entertainment.
That’s me, I have a MASSIVE wait-list on Isthereanydeal.com and buy most games at around $5, including triple A games, assuming I haven’t already gotten them for free from Epic, Amazon or Good Ole Games.
However, if I know it’s NEVER going to go down or it’s from Nintendo, torrents all the way.
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Folks here are like “everyone uses it. Eventually all gamers realize it’s better”
Me, having never even heard of this in my 30 years of gaming: 🫣
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It’s a catch 22. If everyone uses it, game companies get it shut down, and then it doesn’t exist, and then nobody uses it. The only existing methods of piracy are little known. That you’ve never heard of it is expected.
I was so upset when the vault got dmca’d
I mean, do you pirate games? If you’ve never gone to a torrent site in your life it’s not surprising, but FitGirl’s repacks are so numerous that it’s hard not to notice them if you do pirate.
I used to torrent frequently, but rarely software.
Since I graduated and started making adult money I haven’t really at all. When I want to vote with my wallet, I just don’t play it at all (usually these are live service games anyways).Although I’m going to start torrenting music and video again on principle.
vote with my wallet
Lol
Yeah, I know, it doesn’t actually work, because capitalism is a joke. But you get the idea, I think
I am so wary of downloading them though, exe files are scary for fools like me
Huh, the site isn’t opening for me at all, DNS_PROBE_ERROR or ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED on my browsers. I wonder if it’s a country-wide block in Brazil? I saw some news yesterday on the police raiding pirate servers
the IP address is 103.224.182.241 if you want to try adding it to your hosts file to circumvent what appears to be a solely DNS-based block. or just change your DNS lookup server I guess.
ping 103.224.182.241gives me a “general failure”. At least I can still find stuff via qbittorrent’s builtin search
Yaaarggh! Fuck you auto mod, I’m trying to be helpful. >:(
Just FYI: Links to such sites are a liability for the instance operators.
Come sail the seas at dbzero where we dont give a fuck
Ahh man that makes so much more sense than deebeezer zero, sometimes I’m slow
Stands for ‘divide by zero’ as far as I know, if that helps
Wouldn’t they at most have to comply with a DMCA takedown request within a reasonable amount of time? At least that seems to be what major platforms do. Not actually sure what happens for smaller platforms and many lemmy instances are hosted and owned outside the US too.
I’ve had a lot less of a desire to pirate games after moving to Linux full time a few years ago. But FitGirl has been the one reliable place for public torrents, compaed to chancing it on the third Google Link or scrolling through the Russian CS-Rin-Rulette forum to find links.
I’ve never had a single problem with cs-rin and I’d be surprised if the average person ever would.
Why would you ever use google to find torrents?
It was 5-10 years ago, not too hard to find and a little before Google intentionally made things harder to find. I’ve used many public and private trackers, but it’s just that these days my interest in movies has disappeared almost completely, and I’m happy with most of the games I have.
If you ever get back into it, look into jackett. Consolidates a large number of trackers (some some setup) which makes life so much easier.
I prefer Prowlarr personally but yes Jackett is great.
God bless Fitgirl
I love fitgirl.
Truly fighting the good fight.
As a Loonix enjoyer I prefer a pre-installed game folder compressed in a 7z archive or whatever instead from cs.rin.ru, it just werks. In Lutris.
Yesterday I tried to mod persona 4 golden on Linux. After a couple hours of headaches and some help from the developer, I finally managed to fix the problem and launch persona aaaaand denuvo shut it down.
Denuvo literally shut down my legal version of P4G because I used one too many versions of proton. This is why I support fitgirl
They still pay for Denuvo for Persona 4? What a waste of money.
Atlus, like many Japanese companies, is very protective of their ips, for worse. There is no better
Same thing happened to me with Street fighter 6. I was just trying to get it to run and kept switching proton versions and it got locked.
Euy even buy games anymore if you can’t play them?
If you paid, it’s not really yours.
Yeah, Denuvo registers every version of Proton as a different computer. So when you cycle through a bunch of different versions, Denuvo sees you booting it on a bunch of different computers back-to-back. IIRC Denuvo’s ToS allows for 5 different computers to boot a game within 24 hours. So it locks you out for 24h, as an anti-account-sharing measure. It has hit the spotlight a few times recently, because of the Steam Deck users needing to cycle through Proton versions.
Wait fitgirl is actually a female? Been using those repacks for a very long time. A legend among the scene.
Yep, she was super happy when another girl came upon the scene, Empress. They collabed on a big release one time and I remember her saying “Girl power!”, then not long after Empress had a big ego trip and falling out with the repackers.
That’s some lore I didn’t know. Pirates and egos, an iconic duo.
I used fit girl for a game I didn’t know if my first pc build would run a game I wanted to buy. It didn’t work, I upgraded my pc and tried it again and then it worked.
I’m glad they are around now that I’m trying to learn about pc gaming.
Same here. The problem was that I needed more RAM. 🙃
I suspect FitGirl is a morbidly obese 58 year old man with a twisted sense of humor.
Nah its a Russian women.
Hopefully less old. We want him to keep them repacks coming
Omg He’s just like me fr fr
More importantly, why are they using the cover of Amelie to talk about it?
The article is using it because FitGirl uses it.
Yeah i seen that… so i just deleted the comment. It’s still weird to me that they are using it, but I love the movie so maybe it will generate exposure for people to watch it.
I have zero trust installing pirated software, especially when they go out of their way to break it when using wine on Linux or running it in a vm.
You must’ve stumbled on some bad sources I’m afraid.
They don’t go out of their way to break it, they just don’t pay attention to it (yet). There was an interesting interview here a few months ago: https://lemmy.world/post/32441387
