My sweet summer child… We missed our chance. The revolution isn’t coming. Or maybe it will happen and then we will die anyways. The climate is fucked. There is no unfucking it. We can fuck it a little less than we currently are every year, but that isn’t going to save us.
The effects of this will rival the Permian extinction in the near term and in the long term, barring a miraculous turnaround through geological processes after a few thousand years, it will certainly be worse.
For reference, the Permian extinction wiped out 90% of ALL LIFE. Like 75% of land based life and 95% of all sea life (of which there was considerably more) at the time died out. It was caused by a sudden and severe increase in atmospheric greenhouse gasses over the course of several thousand years. We are outpacing that by orders of magnitude. So we could quite conceivably reach the levels seen during that time and we could do it much faster, giving all life even less time to adapt to the worst catastrophy in the history of life.
We’re boned, my dude.
We haven’t crossed the point of no return. We are accelerating because we keep press on the acceleration. If we stopped (as we did temporarily during Covid), stuff would get back on track. We have to act now
lol.
I’m a time traveler, I came back from the future just to tell you guys that we will naturally evolve from capitalism to democratic socialism, aka market socialism. It’s still capitalism, but better. You still have free markets, but cooperatives will beat corporations on account of simply being more competitive - you see, in a level playing field, cooperatives don’t need to squeeze their customers, employees, & vendors to maintain a profit margin for their investors, unlike every investor led corporation in the world. You can even ask the incoming mayor of New York about it. Wait a minute, is he a time traveler too?
Why wait? Fucking help it collapse
Capitalism will burn itself out but that literally comes with the burn out of humanity. The only way to reverse capitalism is to revolt and impose our own socialist agenda. I know its not what you want to hear but its the only solution to not ending our lives in horrible desperation. Our new policies for climate change will ensure mitigation of greenhouse gasses but the button has been pressed on our future and we will see climate disasters and a global warming that we will need to endure. Endurance and ensurance are the only outcomes possible with the impotence our society is achieving. We are so stuck in this capitalist hellscape and incapable of fighting the systems that rob resources and leeches on the world. We only have this planet and we are sucking it dry quite literally.
i think you’re going to be waiting a while?
the last countries that were communist have turned capitalist or at least mixed market
have any countries actually become communist in the last 50 years?
You mean those fascist neo-feudal states that existed mostly in North Asia?
Communist countries are something that can’t exist on the real world.
Capitalism turning shit does not mean instant communism. Bit too US mindset.
True but a communist/socialist system isn’t really possible in the world mostly thanks to the fundamental human nature of greed and power over others
Partly agree. Capitalism has some self-balancing elements that makes it so functional that communist systems totally ignored and fell in a black hole of inefficiency. Problem is by it’s nature capitalism generates inequality. Everything falls almost magically on the same graph. Distribution of wealth will always remain the same. If you throw more wealth in the system, the graph will just grow bigger but retain it’s shape. There will still be a mass of piss poor people and small elite that controls most of the wealth. Things like tickle down is a gruel joke.
If there will ever be system of equality it has to be well designed and tightly controlled, monitored and swift to react, without any chaotic elements.
…and then there is the greed and corruption you mentioned.
If history tells us anything…
Seems robo-factories in China are going to take over the world. Hope they have some mercy, because no one can compete with China now.
Waiting is usually not the best option. like, you can wait until the trash goes away on it’s own, but it might take longer than you expect, with consequences you might not.
Just saying…
you gotta make it happen.
We’re a lot more likely to Balkanize and divide
I think we might see some form of separation.
Covid 2.0 could definitely do us all in.
Because lard ass orange pile of shit is not preparing the world for a new pandemic and instead is destroying green energy and allowing AI to waste and pollute the environment.
i’d be glad if it did honestly
Before it goes it will be proceeded be decades of massive corruption, general enshittification of everything, corporate rule and oppression.
When you are running away from corporate sentry drones, because you were outsite after curfew in hunger games type society, it’s better time to start waiting.
So more of the same then
We’ve already had decades of massive corruption and general enshittification. Nothing stopping us from making things better.
Remember everyone, if your utopia relies on the idea that everyone just peacefully gives up their power, it is doomed to fail.
IMHO: We all should strive to be the change we want to see in the world. But sometimes it’s even enough to just be the person that you wish to see in the world more often.
Tbf the chance I want to see in the world is “common sense” tho, so not much I can get better upon to help.
Like people are geniuenly trying to make fascism popular again so what am I supposed to self-improve at, punching?
IMO: punching would be useful in keeping fascists out of a community, if nothing else helps.
Unfortunately it seems to me that the nazis are being way better at self-improving their punching. At least here in northern europe, they frequently hold training camps with pretty rough sparring.
Ugh. Sons of Odin or whatever still a thing, or some new groups?
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The industrial mechanisms that promote climate change would not die with capitalism.
What would die is the goal of limitless growth (and limitless externalities). And it would presumably put the decision making about the right tradeoff between “industrial mechanisms” and the climate back in the hands of the people… instead of leaving that choice to self-interested billionaires.
