You don’t need to buy food every day, or do laundry, or hoover, clean/tidy. Meditating is not for everyone and for some people even socialising is not a daily necessity.
Cook and wash up 3x daily - this is also crazy. If it is supposedly a workday, you won’t be home for lunch. And you don’t want to or have to cook every time you’re home, and for the dishes, there exist dishwashers (if you don’t have one, make sure you get one, this is the single best thing that happened to us if we talk about chores. We had a 12+people party yesterday, and it only took 2 runs to not think about dishes, over than 30mins for putting them into the washer).
I think the washing machine edges out the dishwasher but they are my 1 and 2. If I had to live on a deserted island and could only take two things with me it’s my washing machine and dishwasher.
Oh, sorry, I both was born in and live in a place where a washing machine is something that is there by default. Yes, this is not given, and in this case washing machine is more important
No, no! Everyone can afford what you’ve always had. They’re clearly just too lazy, unlike the perfect billionaires you’ll never have an unkind word for.
Are you ok? I just humbly confirmed that I considered something I’ve always had a given, where it is not. The billionaires thing: do we know each other?
Also, what I always had, I’ve had in different forms. Like, when I was a kid, we had this Siberia-6 washing machine, which was ok for the Soviet Union that was crumbling into pieces around us, but by the western standards, the technology was like something from the 60s. It was such shit that I washed my socks by hand, does it count?
I also wore said socks until they had giant holes in them, same as my sweaters. I was only talking about this with my billionaire friends, but now you also know.
No. I don’t accept that widespread burnout is anything more than a sign of a profoundly sick society in which the only future anyone is working towards is just more and greater exploitation. I don’t see that changing for the better, ever.
Even then, you can socialize during a lot of this, too. Cook with friends. Have community meals. Socialize with coworkers. Etc.
Edit: It’s funny, I’ll say ‘Unionize’ and anyone with half a brain will cheer, but the second I say “Hey maybe it would be good to build actual community with people you want to build defenses against capitalism with,” I’m the bad guy
But, I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe we need another study about how we’re all actually more productive when we’re required to be at work for fewer hours.
Nope. We just need to have even less time to do anything, don’t you know that rich people can afford to hire servants? Therefore everyone can and the poor are just lazy.
And there are hundreds of other necessary activities that aren’t listed here. What is your point? The point of the post is that this person (and many others) feel overburdened by the pressures and requirements of modern society. Pointing out that the specific chore of vacuuming doesn’t have to happen every day isn’t astute.
If that’s true, which I question very much as the pressures of modern society are significantly more encompassing than in the past, that only means we’ve been doing it wrong the whole time.
living life as a european peasant was less burden some, in that you died by 30-35, and only 1/2 children survived past 5 years old.
or maybe you’d rather be working 10 hours a day in a factory from the age of 10, losing your limbs in an accident, and being a begger the rest of your life? that was life for many pre ww1
Half the things you don’t need to do daily.
Which half?
You don’t need to buy food every day, or do laundry, or hoover, clean/tidy. Meditating is not for everyone and for some people even socialising is not a daily necessity.
Cook and wash up 3x daily - this is also crazy. If it is supposedly a workday, you won’t be home for lunch. And you don’t want to or have to cook every time you’re home, and for the dishes, there exist dishwashers (if you don’t have one, make sure you get one, this is the single best thing that happened to us if we talk about chores. We had a 12+people party yesterday, and it only took 2 runs to not think about dishes, over than 30mins for putting them into the washer).
I think the washing machine edges out the dishwasher but they are my 1 and 2. If I had to live on a deserted island and could only take two things with me it’s my washing machine and dishwasher.
Oh, sorry, I both was born in and live in a place where a washing machine is something that is there by default. Yes, this is not given, and in this case washing machine is more important
No, no! Everyone can afford what you’ve always had. They’re clearly just too lazy, unlike the perfect billionaires you’ll never have an unkind word for.
Are you ok? I just humbly confirmed that I considered something I’ve always had a given, where it is not. The billionaires thing: do we know each other?
Also, what I always had, I’ve had in different forms. Like, when I was a kid, we had this Siberia-6 washing machine, which was ok for the Soviet Union that was crumbling into pieces around us, but by the western standards, the technology was like something from the 60s. It was such shit that I washed my socks by hand, does it count?
I also wore said socks until they had giant holes in them, same as my sweaters. I was only talking about this with my billionaire friends, but now you also know.
No. I don’t accept that widespread burnout is anything more than a sign of a profoundly sick society in which the only future anyone is working towards is just more and greater exploitation. I don’t see that changing for the better, ever.
Even then, you can socialize during a lot of this, too. Cook with friends. Have community meals. Socialize with coworkers. Etc.
Edit: It’s funny, I’ll say ‘Unionize’ and anyone with half a brain will cheer, but the second I say “Hey maybe it would be good to build actual community with people you want to build defenses against capitalism with,” I’m the bad guy
Work.
But, I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong. Maybe we need another study about how we’re all actually more productive when we’re required to be at work for fewer hours.
Nope. We just need to have even less time to do anything, don’t you know that rich people can afford to hire servants? Therefore everyone can and the poor are just lazy.
And there are hundreds of other necessary activities that aren’t listed here. What is your point? The point of the post is that this person (and many others) feel overburdened by the pressures and requirements of modern society. Pointing out that the specific chore of vacuuming doesn’t have to happen every day isn’t astute.
The whole comment would fit into literally any time period.
If that’s true, which I question very much as the pressures of modern society are significantly more encompassing than in the past, that only means we’ve been doing it wrong the whole time.
they aren’t. people just say that to feel good.
living life as a european peasant was less burden some, in that you died by 30-35, and only 1/2 children survived past 5 years old.
or maybe you’d rather be working 10 hours a day in a factory from the age of 10, losing your limbs in an accident, and being a begger the rest of your life? that was life for many pre ww1
Work all day in the field
Sleep
Am I the only one who finds this impossible?
You’re right! Why should we try to fix it now?
We should make it even worse and then deny it was ever better than it is right now!
they are overburdened by basic adulthood.
that’s a character flaw. not a society flaw.
none of these things are onerous burdens. they are minimal. nobody is asking them to train 2-3 hours a day for a marathon.