Do we really need West and South when we can use negative North and negative East?

  • fizzle@quokk.au
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    7 天前

    For most of human history people who couldn’t do math, or read, or understand a map, have been communicating directions to each other.

    4 directions is just enough to tell someone which way to face, without being too many to remember.

    • leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      7 天前

      without being too many to remember

      People used to have no problem remembering the names of at least eight winds, depending on the direction…

      Here are the ones used in Catalonia, for instance; we were taught them at school:

      Though, to be fair, llevant means where the sun rises and ponent where it sets, migjorn means midday, which makes sense given the other two, and everyone already knew tramuntana, cause it’s a headache when it blows, so it’s mostly the other four we have to remember… the Greek one seems quite harder, though, then again, I’m not Greek…:

  • EndOfLine@lemmy.world
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    7 天前

    Just guessing here, but I would think it’s for for clarity and brevity. West and South are shorter to say and distinct enough to avoid being easily misheard causing somebody to go in the opposite direction than intended.

  • EponymousBosh@awful.systems
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    7 天前

    This is just the Minecraft coordinates system and it sucks. “OK I’m at the coords, where’s the–oh fuck, it was -3002, 108 not 3002, 108.”

  • droning_in_my_ears@lemmy.world
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    7 天前

    Why do we have 26 letters? Why not just communicate in binary!

    01010100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01110110 01100101 01110010 01111001 00100000 01101110 01100001 01110100 01110101 01110010 01100001 01101100 00100001

  • MotoAsh@piefed.social
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    7 天前

    In addition to what others have already said, it’d be really silly to make one a negative of the other in the most basic sense, too.

    There have been so many issues with electrons having a “negative” charge, and that’s a binary situation! It would be so much worse to introduce implied favoritism with basic directions.

  • litchralee@sh.itjust.works
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    7 天前

    As a practical matter, relative directions are already hard enough, where I might say that Colorado is east of California, and California is west of Colorado.

    To use +/- East would mean there’s now just a single symbol difference between relative directions. California bring -East of Folorado, and Colorado being +East of California.

    Also, we need not forget that the conventional meridian used for Earth navigation is centered on Greenwich in the UK, and is a holdover from the colonial era where Europe is put front-and-center on a map and everything else is “free real estate”. Perhaps if the New World didn’t exist, we would have right-ascension based system where Greenwich is still 0-deg East and Asia is almost 160-deg East. Why would colonialists center the maps on anywhere but themselves?

  • hperrin@lemmy.ca
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    7 天前

    Better question is why don’t they have 8? I hate saying “north by north east”.

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      7 天前

      Northeast would be one of the 8 already. North by northeast is the direction between north and northeast

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        6 天前

        I understand that. If we had a word for north east, let’s say “yest”, then I wouldn’t have to say “north by north east”, I could just say “north yest”.