I don’t read r/conservative much but what I’ve seen is they keep banning actual conservatives because they correctly call out what Trump is doing on things where it’s not about left and right but right and wrong.

Some people are saying that it could be coincidental. OP asks why would the two accounts who post so regularly just happen to both stop at the same time on that day.

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      The way “Conservative” is used in America is different to other countries. Usually its an economic position, but in America its bound up with views on gun control, immigration, abortion, and pro corporate anti union power.

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      Maybe that wasn’t the best word but if someone is MAGA they’re in general not very principled because they just accept whatever Trump does even when it goes against what past prominent conservatives did or said.

      For example conservatives at-least said for a long time they were strong supporters of free speech but as soon as Trump started attacking free speech a lot of them fell in line. But for example maybe some on r/conservative would say I thought we supported free speech and then the posts would get deleted leaving only those in the MAGA cult left.

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        Basically the likes of George Will, Liz Cheney, and other NeverTrump republicans.

        They’ve been driven from any influence within the GOP, but any outsider would call them conservative.

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              Why is it anyone’s business if he’s a virgin or not?

              That was painful to watch for many, many reasons. The commentary, the interview questions, and of course the answers.

              Do yourself a favor. If you already know Fuentes is a self-avowed Nazi, don’t give that video attention.

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                Did you miss the part where he says women should have the right to vote?! His opinions on other people not having any rights certainly make his life choices fair game. He should be ridiculed. But yes, Piers Morgan is douchenozzle

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        Principled supporters of things like freedom of speech are called “liberals.”

        MAGAs, on the other hand, are the truest conservatives we’ve seen since the NAZIs.

        Monarchy/fascism/oppression/maintaining of hierarchy has always been what conservatism has been about. Noises to the contrary have always been lies to hoodwink their marks.

        See also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4CI2vk3ugk

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          MAGAs, on the other hand, are the truest conservatives we’ve seen since the NAZIs.

          Black Hundreds predated the Nazis as well.

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        There’s no such thing as a “principled” conservative. Conservativism is the idea that nothing should change, except the things that the conservative thinks need to change. It is, without exception, based on the self-interest of the conservative determining their own positions. It’s narcissism dressed in stoic nationalism wielding ignorance and fueled by anger.

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          That’s not what conservatism is. Obviously, it’s a relative term, but it still describes a concrete ideology in each society it’s in. By your logic progressives want to literally have every thing to progress, but that’s clearly not what the ideology behind it stands for.

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            Bullshit. Progressivism is based on the principles of freedom, justice, equality, and empathy. A progressive believes in their principles even when they run counter to their own self interest. A conservative, invariably, will simply choose principles that are aligned with their own self interest. Twas always thus, and forever shall be.

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                I didn’t miss shit. Your point is wrong. There is no underlying conservative ideology. It does not exist. Each iteration of conservatives makes up their own values and then acts like those are immovable facts. It’s like drawing a circle around wherever you happen to be standing and then declaring everything within it the Kingdom of Divine Righteous People. There are no examples of conservatives who have not done this. That’s not ideology, that’s narcissism.

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      There’s all sorts of conservative “adjacents” and factions, like various sects of libertarians, finance-oriented fiscal conservatives, hawks with a more oldschool view of foreign policy, anti-corporate small business owners, farmers, some hackers, small town preachers, “Hank Hill” suburban moderates, all sorts of folks.

      From my perspective in Texas, it* used* to be quite diverse. Then all of a sudden, Trump blocked out the sun, megachurches took over, and social media/Fox News really bombarded otherwise divided factions (including my family) with a lot of unified propaganda.

      Don’t get me wrong; I have seen some shit you wouldn’t believe down here, and heard plenty of talk radio that makes my skin crawl. MAGA was here before Trump claimed it. But “conservative” definitely used to be a much broader term than MAGA.


      …but clearly these groups are hardly represented anymore.

      If OP’s post is true, Russia is very much interested in fostering “MAGA style” Republican unity, so naturally they’re going to encourage this consolidation and crowd out the factions on Reddit.