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I still can’t believe Brave is a thing. There apparently are just people out there who are like “I’m frustrated by the corporate bullshit in google’s chromium chrome, so I think I’ll try this crypto scam made by a homophobe on google’s chromium brave”
Fixed it, so it’s more accurate. Now with even more insanity.
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Oh crypto? O bullets???
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Just for the sake of right and wrong. Do you understand that statements like “brown people who work for ice to deport other brown people” are akin to race replacement theory??? Just because someone is dark skinned doesn’t mean there is a race-theory they need to be loyal to.
“pedos, insurance companies, brown people who work for ice” Sheesh how can you be unaware of what you just replied with? If you are feeling threatened by statements of freedom maybe you shouldn’t be chucking statements of mass murder out there? “brown people who work for ice”???
Yes, I know. So lets look at it objectively. Who are you threatened by and when? Who am I threatened by and when? Brave and ICE are the same people are they not?
Personally as long as I’m not contributing to their wealth in some way I don’t think it really matters what the CEO of the company that makes a product does. I’m mostly just going to use the best product for me. Now there is an argument that simply by using it I’m contributing to their usage numbers which helps them, and that’s definitely true for social media platforms because of the network effect (which is why I stay off of the corporate ones), but it’s less true of other products. In fact if i use an ad-supported product but block the ads I’m likely costing them more than I am a benefit.
It’s also a spectrum rather than black and white: every medium or larger tech company, especially if american due to the deregulated and in many cases openly corrupt capitalism, is going to do evil things for profit and be both run and owned by evil people/corporations. But their level of danger to global society varies. Musk is extremely dangerous because of his active campaign to bring fascism and nationalism to power in Europe, which is why x.com is blocked in my house at a DNS level. Other billionaires are dangerous too but they’re not all equal.
Can I get a recommendation for a better ad-free browser on iPhone?
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I think the only real solution to protect ourselves is to stop using any browsers.
There is no ethical consumption, so I’ll use whatever works. Brave works. In fact, its search engine works very well. While I don’t currently use its crypto stuff, it was an interesting idea to combat ads while allowing the user to still reward creators.
That said, I also use firefox. 🤷♀️
Sorry why are we mad at Meredith?
Any alternative on iOS and android? Can’t find any good one… And I’m a GOS user very privacy aware but honestly brave is the only browser I know that blocks ads
I’ll stop using Brave when other browsers improve.
“Privacy-focused browser”
paid for by the largest corporate espionage agency that spies on Americans for the US government
Peter Theil is the primary investor in Brave.
For those not in the know, Peter Theil is a MAGA Christian-Nationalist fascist, and owner of Palantir.
Palantir, is the military industrial complex company Trump has entrusted to create a mass surveillance network on US citizens, completely against the 4th Amendment, and dwarfing the NSA spying that was exposed by Snowden.
You can garuntee any activity you do in Brave is being tracked and sent to that network.
People here up upvoting baseless conspiracies based on a braindead notice that technology is like magic.
If everything was tracked and harvested by Brave, it’d destroy them much more than the bullshit “homophobe” allegation. Just use network traffic monitors to see if it does. You think people haven’t tried?
Or do you think software can covertly send data without users being able to determine?
It’s open source for fucks sake. Stop with the Alex Jones tier analysis.
You can garuntee any activity you do in Brave is being tracked and sent to that network.
Source:??? BTW, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JNg4Ox2Hvc
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you only have three downvotes. maybe the kids are alright? XD
There are no kids on Lemmy, lol
lol yeah, you right XD
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I need a lenticular post.
Hey! Put some (dis)respect on the man’s name! Brave is made by the (idiotic) guy that made the backbone of modern interactive web(JavaScript) , Brandon Eich! He was one of the founders of Mozilla!
Imagine what could’ve been if JavaScript never existed. It might have even been good!
Even JS had a golden period where it was generally used to make the web a bit more fun.
Corporate greed really robbed us all of a lot.
I’m missing something here. What’s the big thing people in this thread are hinting at JavaScript being used for that’s so sinister? Is it just like, tracking and stuff?
A pretty list:
https://github.com/denysdovhan/wtfjs?tab=readme-ov-file#-examples
Also, javascript is quite heavy, slow, and many other shits, but i can’t confirm them as i’m not a web programmer
Yeah there’s loads of funny little quirks to the language. I actually quite like that about it, I think it’s sort of endearing and human, even when I’m frustrated with it.
I don’t know if it’s slow necessarily, but I do know that a lot of things I build (I have to build things designed by other people, I’ve tried to push back but ultimately it’s my boss designing a lot of it) is overengineered and relies on frankly too many moving parts, which could contribute to annoying UX I guess but with all the caching we have in place I’m not sure it’s slow… I’m not a computer science guy though, I might be just too dumb to understand how slow it is
“Just tracking and stuff” is a ridiculous understatement. The web of today is primarily a surveillance tool used to cram advertisements down our throats at the cost of anything else. The big players have become so good at it that they can identify you uniquely even if you don’t use their service, because the data collected is sold everywhere else.
It has turned us all into products.
Some of us still remember the glory of the early 90’s internet. The tooling needed to surveil wasn’t there yet, and most content was about being creative, expressive, and fun. Corporations have robbed us of that and it feels like every fucking website now is just another tool to commodify you.
Hey man, I agree with everything you’re saying and I genuinely mourn the freedom of expression that the web has lost. I was using “just tracking and stuff” as a shorthand as part of a conversation, cos I was just asking specifically about what I was missing from what people were talking about.
Yeah I get it, not trying to attack you but rather help you understand that what I think you’re missing may just be the scale of the problem.
Let’s stop calling it tracking. Tracking can be done server-side. What you are referring to is spying if we’re calling a spade a spade.
Many modern websites won’t work without JavaScript enabled. They purposefully design essential features of the site to fail without JavaScript, so that is must be enabled, so that spying can occur. This is also slow, and bloated.
Yeah, it sucks.
Sorry, I work with a marketing department so it’s just normalised to me to call it tracking despite the fact that yes, I agree with you that it’s surveillance and targeted ads are gross. What distinction are you making between tracking server-side, and spying? For me, I guess I’m talking about things like Google analytics or Google ads or hotjar or MS Carity when I say “tracking” in this context (JavaScript).
Well, if you sent a request to a web server, it is obviously gong to know that you requested something from it- so in general it should be the expectation of a user that the server owner has a reliable way to track that activity.
Tracking pixels, cookies, etc that follow a user around the web and gather activity that someone did NOT send to a server and relay it back to said server is IMHO spying.
Just because it’s being served into the browser on each payload doesn’t mean it was requested or desired.
All those things you named are spyware, marketed under the guise of diagnostic reporting. And, to be fair, that most certainly are also used for diagnostic purposes. But that’s not how they make money.
JavaScript is actually a beautiful language. It’s what people have done with and to it that’s the problem.
I program on JavaScript. It is not elegant, it is a permissive mess.
More, what people use it for.
Same reason they used Chrome. “What else is there?”
Software discoverability is kind of bad these days, and getting worse.
Which is why I moved on to Helium… which probably like all other browsers have downsides, some political.
*which is also still chrome
Normal browser icon vs incognito browser icon comes to mind
