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      Ok, so Poland seems to recognize it and is not in the “core”…

      Turkey seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …

      Taiwan seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …

      Ukraine seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” … Ukraine actually said that after they did China threatened to limit trade and block scheduled delivery of 500,000 covid vaccine doses.

      Czech Republic seems to recognize it and is not in the “core” …

      Actually looking at the countries supporting and not supporting it looks like divide is more between democracies and dictatorships.

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        Those countries are in the core or the semi-periphery, depending on who you ask. They’re in the liminal space between the core and the periphery. They have “favored vassal” status, and won’t bite the hand that feeds them.

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          You’re saying that Russia and China is anti-imperialistic? One actively is trying to exterminated a country and another is preparing to do the same likely in 2027.

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            Russia and China are both anti-imperialist countries. Russia is run by nationalists that kicked out the western imperialists that were plundering their country in the 90s, and are thus anti-imperialist strategically. China is a socialist country, and has no financial oligarchy. Because of this, it has been the most important player in undermining imperialism globally, and providing an alternative to bypass unequal exchange.

            It isn’t the US or EU that countries in the global south go towards in breaking free of the cycle of underdevelopment, it’s Russia and China. Russia isn’t exterminating anyone, and China isn’t preparing to do that either. You have a very chauvanistic view of the enemies of the west, as though you can’t accept that their villians aren’t as evil as them.

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            You’re saying that Russia and China is anti-imperialistic?

            Yes: China by virtue of being socialist and Russia by present circumstances. Previously:

            Russia is an interesting case: it has already liberated itself from the post-Soviet “shock therapy” neocolonizers. This occurred during Putin’s administration, which is why he is especially hated by the US.

            But Russia isn’t trying to “liberate” Ukraine, at least not all of Ukraine. It’s trying to resolve the genocidal attacks on the people of the Donbas, and it’s trying to resolve the imperialist military expansion at its border.

            One actively is trying to exterminated a country

            Despite the last three years of propaganda to the contrary, Russia is not trying to exterminate Ukraine[1][2].

            another is preparing to do the same likely in 2027.

            First of all, if you ask most countries, including the ROC, the PRC, and the USA, Taiwan is still a part of China. This is considered an internal matter by both, and is a consequence of China’s civil war being interrupted at the cusp of its conclusion, when the remnants of the fascist KMT had retreated to the Formosa/Taiwan.

            Second of all, China doesn’t want to attack Taiwan if it can at all avoid it. Otherwise it would have done it already. China has the patience to wait out a long, slow process of integration. It has nothing to gain by attacking those who it considers its own people. Until recently, the US had been hoping to goad China into an attack, in order to destabilize China. But I think the US now realizes that it doesn’t have the capability to succeed.

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            Lol, it’s hilarious that western shitlibs have so little to base their accusations of imperialism against china on that they have to start appealing to things that haven’t even happened, but which they swear will.

            Well ok; Ukraine is preparing to exterminate the entire human race twice over in 2027, so actually Ukraine is the most imperialist power.

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        Every country on earth is a dictatorship: either a dictatorship of the rich or a dictatorship of the proletariat

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          Well his map doesn’t match the map in the article he posted. I can also push bunch of random shit that doesn’t agree with each other and then argue the person ignored “evidence”.

          You know damn well he is full of shit. You are criticizing one imperialistic country while defending other even more genocidal ones.

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            No, the genocidal empire is telling you that the non-genocidal nascent socialist power is actually a genocidal empire so that you sit on your hands due to lacking a real alternative.