• xep@discuss.online
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    17 days ago

    More proof that rules and guidelines only apply to those without power or privilege.

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    this is actually a pretty wild headline to appear on the verge frontpage

    good on them

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      I see a lot of people hate The Verge and I don’t understand why. Is it perfect? No. But, I think they have a pretty solid ethics policy and they call out bullshit.

      I like 404 better but Verge is by no means bad.

      Maybe there was an issue with them that I don’t know about? Idk!

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        Google “verge pc build”. They ran a video of a guy, completely unqualified, building a “$2000 PC”, and doing almost everything wrong. And then the guy called people racists for dunking on him. There’s layers to the story. The Verge has been a joke of tech reporting for years.

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          Found it. Yeah that video was bad.

          To their credit, they did issue a retraction and repost the story with correct steps.

          The copyright strikes were definitely a dumb way to handle it.

          Idk if true or not but in an Arstechnica story, The Verge’s editor in chief apparently asked the Vox lawyers to rescind the copyright strikes.

          I don’t mean to sound like I’m defending them. The video should never have made it up in the first place, but people make mistakes. If you own it and apologize, I’ll give you a second chance.

          I don’t always agree with their take on a topic, but for the most part I have found them to be factual.

          I do also agree with many Ed Zitron takes about them tho. They could be doing a better job on AI, but over the last few weeks I’ve seen an improvement there.

          TLDR: that PC build from 8 years ago was dumb and extra embarrassing, they should feel bad for it, but I still think some if the hate they get is unjustified.

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          And “completely unqualified” in this case means a motivated 12 year old with an Internet connection would do significantly better.

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        Paywalls mostly (speaking for myself).

        That and, back in the day, they trashed Samsung for making big phones, then praised Apple for making objectively less functional ones (no stylus, no Note like features). We started calling them iVerge back then, for favoritism to Apple. Even as an Apple guy, I found it annoying.

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        An eon ago they made a PC building guide that was riddled with mistakes and had to pull it down again and I think that’s still where most of that comes from.

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          It goes earlier than that debacle for me but I honestly do not remember anymore.

          If they’ve turned a new leaf then hey good for them.

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          Yeah. I just looked it up. That video was dumb and bad. Shouldn’t have made it up, but the article is still on their site. They did issue a retraction and update the story to correct the inaccuracies.

          I don’t know if it warrants the Lemmy hate but I also know that Lemmy hates anything corporate so it is what it is. I’ll still read The Verge as long as they follow their own ethics policy.

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          IIRC the initial response to extremely valid criticism of the video was also terrible, and they threw the video host under the bus for a rushed video that should’ve never been produced under the circumstances it was (granted he was part of the terrible response to criticism)

  • DarkSideOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
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    Sometimes I have the impression X is doing everything to be removed to the App Store so Musk can sue and get rid of the guidelines. And as we can see here we can do even CSAM on his social network and no one do anything, this should be a matter of law, not a private company like Google or Apple.

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      Thanks, this is very helpful!

      It’s only allowing me report apps I’ve installed so I’m wondering if I should very briefly install the app to allow that. I’m generally cautions of allowing dodgy apps on my devices.

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        You don’t have to open it. Therefore not being able to grant it permissions to access info.

        *I mean that theoretically but it’s worth a shot.we can also review bomb it on the App Store.

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        I wouldn’t even download apps you don’t feel comfortable with because the permissions they are granted are agreed-upon at the time of download and you are also boosting the download and usage metrics simply by installing it and opening it once.

        It’s also extremely unlikely that an application such as X could ever be reported enough to have anything happen. I’m sure it’s on a manually approved list

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          Yes, I feel the same way you do. I really don’t want to add to the download metrics. I’m making an exception this time. Some good journalists, for example Richard Chambers (Ireland), have downloaded it to test and debunk claims made by Musk about safeguards. I think their contribution was a net positive. So there are cases where it’s worth doing.

          I did not need to open the app once. Just downloading it allowed me to complain to apple using the link above. I feel when it comes to a CSAM factory such as this (possibly even trained on CSAM material), and with EU headquarters in my country (Ireland), I have to report it so Apple cannot claim ignorance. Who knows, maybe a whistleblower will someday tell us how many reports there were. Unfortunately our leaders are not leading on this issue, so the social contract is broken and we should all (IMO) do much more than posting on social media. My personal discomfort is less important.

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      Not just blackmail, if either had the balls to ban twitter I don’t imagine the large orange fascist would keep his mouth shut and not retaliate. So it’s also extortion!

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          Musk still donates to them I assume it’s not that bad as much as Musk just needed to be told not do that thing where everyone hates him so close to Trump

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          Musk has already said that he intends to go all in to get Republicans elected in 2028. He and Trump’s heads may be too big to fit in the same room, but he knows which side his bread is buttered on.

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            MUSK, ellisons, THIEL, probably the sackler family, and the couple that is giving him 600mil plus, and of course murdoch and PUTIN.

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              Oh, yeah, and a lot more than that. Most of those super-wealthy people don’t want their names to be well-known, but that are still very active.

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          they staged the falling out, they are much intertwined with each other, besides epstein file implicates them both so musk has incentive to keep trump form turning against him.

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    I’ve been an Apple user since the 80s, I used to be penpals with their CFO Ellen Hancock. Would get care packages from their PR team full of promo items. Exchanged emails with Wozniak and Jobs. I was deeply obsessed.

    Obviously things have drifted away from the core “underdog” vibe that Apple exemplified for so long, as their popularity and device adoption surged, they’ve been less of the Apple I knew.

    But Cook’s behavior this year has me realizing I’ve bought my last Apple device. Bring on Linux in every form.

    I know I don’t matter at all, but it would have taken epic amounts of bullshit to make me sour on them, and here we are.

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      I recently saw a video about what changed and it’s very clear that it is almost entirely Tim Cook’s fault. He’s a rotten snake who no one ever seemed to really like and who was constantly wrong about nearly everything and yet was left in charge and, with zero surprise whatsoever, immediately and consistently fucked it all up.

      He was handed a roadmap to making money without sacrificing quality or much integrity(corporations seem hell-bent on making sure they always suck a little bit at the very least) and he threw it away to be a little bitch instead.

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          I’ve completely lost the video, sorry.

          It talked about how he has always been far more obssessed with shareholder value than quality and affordability for the customer.

          Apple used to make products that got cheaper over time but under Cook they’ve been sky-rocketing in price.

          It also talked about how he was so concerned with pennies that he sought to put a stranglehold on the design team, the people who came up with the entire aesthetic that is Apple a huge reason why they’ve sold so well.

          I’ve no clue why he was chosen to lead the company because he’s just a massive idiot who was handed an easy win, hell he was handed something that had already won and has done so much to break what he was given.

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      And this is also why we NEED mainstream Linux mobile (phone) devices. Google is actively locking down their ecosystem. Both Apple and Google see customers as walking wallets

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      Your individual change is a drop in the ocean but everyone making that change is a tidal wave. I have very recently moved to linux after almost 30 years using windows. It is an incredible set of OSs with brilliant support from a fantastic community and it keeps getting better.

      We need to make the change and encourage others too.

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        You’re not alone. Used to be the biggest Apple fan, worked there for nearly ten years until 2023.

        Last year I made the cut, the new PC I bought was custom built and is running Linux. My MacBook Air is running Asahi Fedora Remix primarily and the iPhone was sold on. Disconnecting from iCloud was a pain, getting pictures off of their system took me three months but it was worth it. Self hosting my stuff now and 2026 is the year to switch my family and friends over as well.

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          I used Apple with an Apple 2, then once bought an Apple laptop just before they switched to intel cpus as an experiment. For reference I had already been running Linux for years at the time, so that was a test. It lasted three or four months before I ran back to Kde, couldn’t stand how rigid, awkward and closed the interface was. As an aside, it was pretty much impossible to extract my data from their “photos” app. They renamed everything and dumed it in a maze of illegible directories.
          That was my last contact with Apple.

          Even Microsoft felt more user friendly to me.

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      Just finishing off setting up ElementaryOS on my wife’s early 2015 MacBook Air. It’s based on Ubuntu LTS, but with a custom theme to make it macOS-esque. Seems pretty good so far, but time will tell if she enjoys using it.

      Edit: Everything but the webcam just worked out of the box. The webcam was a motherfuck though. Took the better part of 3hrs trawling forums to find the full instructions for installing the kernel module to get it running…

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    Why would respecting the guidelines upset “the right”? Are they all pedophiles?

    Apple’s keyboard doesn’t even have the word pedophile. Kind of ironic isn’t it?

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    Because, it’s NEVER been about protecting kids, or other vulnerable people. The filthy rich don’t give one flying fuck about vulnerable people.

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    They pulled Tumblr over cartoon porn, but using AI to sexually abuse actual women and children is all good, apparently.

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    Because billionaires like these two, and the corporations that they run, believe they’re largely not accountable to the law nor cultural pressure. They exist in a cloud of privilege that never holds them to account for truth, justice nor anyone’s wellbeing as long as the investors get paid. They are sociopaths.

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    They are not cowards, they don’t give a single shit about it. There isn’t enough backlash to effect Google so Google doesn’t care. That is how corporations deal with every subject. They don’t treat child porn differently becuase it’s one of the more henious offenses; it’s simply another rule broken and it is delt woth the same way as anyother broken law or rule: ignore it or throw money at it and admit no wrong doing.

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      It’s the opposite. They are cowards. Any move to do the right thing makes you a target for oh dear leader (who is also a pedophile). So they ignore it because it’s more profitable to avoid falling out with the administration. The only value a corporation has is greed.