Yeah nope, if the same product is available for free then the only way to prove a “stolen sale” is if someone had previously paid for the subscription and then cancelled to use the free version of the same product.
Anything else is just the hand of the free market doing it’s thing. If Adobe executives are malding because someone made a cheaper (or free) alternative then they have two honourable routes available:
Add more value to their products to convince people their price tag is worth it.
Reduce the price they charge.
But they’ll literally do anything else but those two, including astroturfing messages like “open source software is piracy”, so stop spewing corpo bullshit!
Adobe pretty much encouraged piracy up until about a decade ago, that way they got schools to train (for free) potential future customers in their way to use design software.
TBH I don’t understand why they have gone with the subs model they currently have, its kind of cutting the blood line from their future customers.
Competition is always a good thing, FOSS competition is the best thing in my opinion.
This guy is a hero, but not because he is trying to fuck Adobe but rather he is helping free design software from (massive) cost which most people cannot afford.
I think JetBrains’s approach is nice. You can subscribe monthly but anything you e subscribed to for 12 months you get a perpetual fall back license for. Unless I’m missing something specific it’s a win for everyone.
I’d suspect it was much the same reason as why Apple decided to kill FCP and rebrand iMovie instead. Professional users are inordinately more expensive in tech support costs
But FCP X is amazing. It’s the one thing I really miss having a Mac for and it’s so disappointing that nobody else has even attempted to replicate it. It’s leaps and bounds ahead of everybody else. Calling it a “rebranded iMovie” shows either a complete lack of awareness of literally anything about it, or an incredible intellectual dishonesty that doesn’t even seen to serve a practical purpose.
It’s also…not subscription based. Or wasn’t in 2018 when I last had a Mac.
They announced a subscription plan today, funnily enough.
But no, FCPX was a huge fuck you to the professional market. And yes, FCPX is built on the iMovie codebase rather than FCP7.
On release:
0 backward compatibility with FCP7 projects.
Support for tape ingest removed.
Multicam editing removed.
No external monitor for playback
Unable to export to Color and other post packages, breaking the whole professional workflow.
Could only be installed manually via the App Store.
And the worst part of all this was Apple abruptly withdrew FCP7 on launch day. So if you were a post house working on a big job and needed a few extra licences, fuck you. If you needed any of the lost features, fuck you. We’re talking companies that plan upgrades a year or so in advance to minimise disruption, and they suddenly faced having to make do with no more licences, or to suddenly switch to Avid with all the pain that causes.
FCPX was suitable for prosumers, who would ingest, edit, mix and grade in the one package. It was not compatible with the way the industry works, and by removing FCP7, Apple signalled that they were no longer interested in the pro market.
There are student subs, which are super cheap. Wouldn’t be surprised if schools/universities would get free licenses. After all, this is how they can attract new paying customers, as you correctly stated
I guarantee that Adobe definitely sees every download of GIMP as a lost sale. That’s corporate mentality.
I worked for many years in the music business, starting back in the days of the “Home Taping is killing music” campaign. I know for a fact that music executives saw the sale of every blank tape, and later, every download, as a lost sale. You could explain that it wasn’t really a lost sale, because that consumer probably wouldn’t have bought it anyway, but they didn’t like hearing that. If someone was listening to it, even if it was just curiosity, that was a lost sale.
They didn’t feel that way about radio stations or libraries, two places where people could get music for free, but somehow, borrowing a friend’s album, and taping it so you could listen to it a few times and decide if you wanted to buy a clean copy, infuriated them.
I knew the people at the top who were going after the downloaders. They were mean, nasty, greedy people, who were stealing way more from their own artists than consumers were ever stealing from them, so I never had a single concern about downloading whatever I want.
These days, artists hardly make any money from recordings. Unless you are buying the music direct from the artist at their shows, then you are just feeding an evil record company. Pirate the records, pay for the shows and merch, and if you want to own a physical copy, buy your music direct from the artist.
Do that long enough, and record companies will die.
And for a while, people using tapes to make field recordings were supposed to pay more for the blanks to offset the supposed lost sales of the unrelated music industry.
The record industry wanted a special tax on blank cassettes, to offset the costs of home recording, which they would distribute as they saw fit, but they never got it.
If there had been a tax, it would have gone straight into the exec’s pockets, and no artist would have ever seen a dime.
If pirating Photoshop counts as a lost sale then so does downloading GIMP.
If so, this man is one of the greatest software pirates ever.
Yeah nope, if the same product is available for free then the only way to prove a “stolen sale” is if someone had previously paid for the subscription and then cancelled to use the free version of the same product.
Anything else is just the hand of the free market doing it’s thing. If Adobe executives are malding because someone made a cheaper (or free) alternative then they have two honourable routes available:
Add more value to their products to convince people their price tag is worth it.
Reduce the price they charge.
But they’ll literally do anything else but those two, including astroturfing messages like “open source software is piracy”, so stop spewing corpo bullshit!
Or 3, the common alternative for monopolists, Buy the competing startup, cannibalize a few of it’s best features and end of life it.
Adobe pretty much encouraged piracy up until about a decade ago, that way they got schools to train (for free) potential future customers in their way to use design software.
TBH I don’t understand why they have gone with the subs model they currently have, its kind of cutting the blood line from their future customers.
Competition is always a good thing, FOSS competition is the best thing in my opinion.
This guy is a hero, but not because he is trying to fuck Adobe but rather he is helping free design software from (massive) cost which most people cannot afford.
More designers, better art to my mind.
The subs model ensures regular and predicable quarterly revenue, which means easier forecasting of growth, which means happier shareholders.
I think JetBrains’s approach is nice. You can subscribe monthly but anything you e subscribed to for 12 months you get a perpetual fall back license for. Unless I’m missing something specific it’s a win for everyone.
I’d suspect it was much the same reason as why Apple decided to kill FCP and rebrand iMovie instead. Professional users are inordinately more expensive in tech support costs
But FCP X is amazing. It’s the one thing I really miss having a Mac for and it’s so disappointing that nobody else has even attempted to replicate it. It’s leaps and bounds ahead of everybody else. Calling it a “rebranded iMovie” shows either a complete lack of awareness of literally anything about it, or an incredible intellectual dishonesty that doesn’t even seen to serve a practical purpose.
It’s also…not subscription based. Or wasn’t in 2018 when I last had a Mac.
They announced a subscription plan today, funnily enough.
But no, FCPX was a huge fuck you to the professional market. And yes, FCPX is built on the iMovie codebase rather than FCP7.
On release:
And the worst part of all this was Apple abruptly withdrew FCP7 on launch day. So if you were a post house working on a big job and needed a few extra licences, fuck you. If you needed any of the lost features, fuck you. We’re talking companies that plan upgrades a year or so in advance to minimise disruption, and they suddenly faced having to make do with no more licences, or to suddenly switch to Avid with all the pain that causes.
FCPX was suitable for prosumers, who would ingest, edit, mix and grade in the one package. It was not compatible with the way the industry works, and by removing FCP7, Apple signalled that they were no longer interested in the pro market.
There are student subs, which are super cheap. Wouldn’t be surprised if schools/universities would get free licenses. After all, this is how they can attract new paying customers, as you correctly stated
I guarantee that Adobe definitely sees every download of GIMP as a lost sale. That’s corporate mentality.
I worked for many years in the music business, starting back in the days of the “Home Taping is killing music” campaign. I know for a fact that music executives saw the sale of every blank tape, and later, every download, as a lost sale. You could explain that it wasn’t really a lost sale, because that consumer probably wouldn’t have bought it anyway, but they didn’t like hearing that. If someone was listening to it, even if it was just curiosity, that was a lost sale.
They didn’t feel that way about radio stations or libraries, two places where people could get music for free, but somehow, borrowing a friend’s album, and taping it so you could listen to it a few times and decide if you wanted to buy a clean copy, infuriated them.
I knew the people at the top who were going after the downloaders. They were mean, nasty, greedy people, who were stealing way more from their own artists than consumers were ever stealing from them, so I never had a single concern about downloading whatever I want.
These days, artists hardly make any money from recordings. Unless you are buying the music direct from the artist at their shows, then you are just feeding an evil record company. Pirate the records, pay for the shows and merch, and if you want to own a physical copy, buy your music direct from the artist.
Do that long enough, and record companies will die.
And for a while, people using tapes to make field recordings were supposed to pay more for the blanks to offset the supposed lost sales of the unrelated music industry.
The record industry wanted a special tax on blank cassettes, to offset the costs of home recording, which they would distribute as they saw fit, but they never got it.
If there had been a tax, it would have gone straight into the exec’s pockets, and no artist would have ever seen a dime.