- cross-posted to:
- conservative@sh.itjust.works
- cross-posted to:
- conservative@sh.itjust.works
US President Donald Trump has said he may impose trade tariffs on countries that do not support his plans to take over Greenland.
“I may put a tariff on countries if they don’t go along with Greenland, because we need Greenland for national security,” Mr Trump said at the White House.
Every time the same threat only means you actually have next to nothing to threaten with Never give in to blackmail it only leads to more (as he has proven quite clearly with this statement!)

American here (not a Trump fan).
There’s three things we should be looking at IMHO.
First- Trump is a publicity man, an actor. He understands the camera.
Think of a magic show. You have the magician and the cute assistant in a swimsuit. So when they set up the trick the assistant is flourishing her hands and dancing over the stage to distract you from noticing that the magician palmed your card instead of shuffling it back into the deck.
Trump understands this. And he knows how to play both the magician and the assistant.
So if he says something wild like this, understand he WANTS attention on that statement, which probably means he DOESN’T want attention on something else. Like Epstein. If those files have any kind of actual proof he partook in Epstein’s services, there’s a good chance that an impeachment might actually succeed to conviction. Because it’s easy to ‘stand with your party leader’, it’s a lot harder to say ‘yes I stand by my vote that the guy in the picture with his dick in a 14yo girl should stay President’.
Point being- whenever Trump says something outrageous like this, your first question should be 'what DOESN’T he want me paying attention to?
Second- understand that USA literally cannot annex Greenland by force. Greenland is a territory of Denmark, and Denmark is a member of NATO. If the US invades Denmark, all other NATO companies are OBLIGATED to provide military support. So that would basically kick USA out of NATO, and you can bet your bottom dollar that not only NATO but also Russia, China, North Korea, etc would all fall over themselves to ‘help respect and defend the sovereign territory of Denmark from illegal invasion’. That very quickly becomes a ‘US vs Rest Of World’ war and even with our giant military there’s NO chance we win against the entire rest of the planet combined. Plus militarily we would be isolated, ostracized from the world economy.
Americans understand this. Our government understands this. Congress understands this. Even if Trump does not, Congress would not authorize such a war.
As for tariffs- Congress is much more hesitant to curtail Trump’s tariff powers, but their tolerance has a limit (somewhere). It’s one thing to enact tariffs ‘to protect American manufacturing’, they’ll generally tolerate a ‘good faith’ effort like that. But when the tariff becomes punitive to countries that aren’t supporting an annexation that obviously isn’t going to happen, I think Congress might step in.
Third- While this all may well be a distraction or a strategy, it is doing actual harm to our international relations. If I was a citizen of EU, AU, Asia, etc, I would be saying 'the US can no longer be trusted to lead the world economy, the rest of the world needs to find a solution where the US is ‘one among many’ not calling the shots. And a big part of that would likely be a different worldwide reserve currency. Because right now this is like being on a bus where every few minutes the driver jokes about swerving in front of an oncoming semi truck- even if he won’t do it, you still don’t want to be on that bus.
What this also means is that the next Presidential election is important not just for American internal politics but for determining what our place in the world will be going forward. While Trump is ineligible to be re-elected, I think it’s important that the US send a clear message this isn’t the sort of statesmanship that we want representing us. That DOESN’T mean blindly vote blue. It means vote in primaries, vote for candidates who act like statesmen.
So you’re saying EU needs to threaten with an Epstein Tariff Retaliation Program and keep throwing the name around until he backs off in a weaponized Streisand effect?
LOL
Couldn’t they just rename Greenland to Epstein Island? “USA need Epstein Island for our security” would be pretty hard to sell.
Trump is way ahead of you. I believe he wants to rename Greenland to Red White and Blueland. Europe renaming the island will advance those naming plans.
If the US invades Denmark, all other NATO companies are OBLIGATED to provide military support. So that would basically kick USA out of NATO,
The other countries can simply not oblige (and thus kill NATO). That’s the more realistic option.
and you can bet your bottom dollar that not only NATO but also Russia, China, North Korea, etc would all fall over themselves to ‘help respect and defend the sovereign territory of Denmark from illegal invasion’.
Lol no they wouldn’t. Neither would they care about who owns Greenland (except probably Russia), neither would they waste immense amounts of money and manpower to fight the biggest military and economy in the world for no real gain, and neither would 2/3 of the listed countries (Ru, NK) be able to do anything serious against US anyway (outside of suicidally throwing nukes at it).
The other countries can simply not oblige (and thus kill NATO). That’s the more realistic option.
I don’t see it.
Sure, the various NATO countries who aren’t Denmark can simply say ‘sorry man we’re out’ and dissolve NATO. Or just refuse to comply, damn the consequences.
They won’t though, because in many cases the threat of NATO is the only thing protecting them.
Look at Eastern Europe on the Russian border- Finland, Estonia, Latvia. Belarus is a RU puppet and Ukraine might lose their war so we can include Lithuania, Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and Romania too. Russia has Navy assets in the Black Sea so you can also consider Bulgaria and Turkey.
If NATO went away tomorrow, do you really think Russia wouldn’t try to gobble one or two of them up? You really think they wouldn’t succeed in at least one or two cases?And what about Canada? They’re a NATO member and they have real military force. Same with UK, Norway, Sweden, Germany.
Do any of them WANT to go up against USA? Of course not.
If the US truly went rogue and invaded a sovereign nation, would they do it? Probably, because if they didn’t, there’s no guarantee they wouldn’t be next.Lol no they wouldn’t. Neither would they care about who owns Greenland (except probably Russia), neither would they waste immense amounts of money and manpower to fight the biggest military and economy in the world for no real gain, and neither would 2/3 of the listed countries (Ru, NK) be able to do anything serious against US anyway (outside of suicidally throwing nukes at it).
They DGAF about Greenland. Greenland isn’t worth shit.
But for any of them to reduce the US’s role in the world economy or worldwide diplomacy, that’s a golden opportunity.
Thing is they needn’t commit huge resources to the war. Just a small force that would be able to make it hurt for the US, and the real war is fought in the media. It gives them a chance to be the heroes and paint US as the villain.Lumping Baltic countries together with Hungary and Slovakia shows you don’t actually know much about the political situation there and shouldn’t try to make predictions about them.
The rest of your comment is too implausible for me to want to discuss it in detail. I really don’t get the impression you’ve actually thought through any of the scenarios you’re coming up with. Canada fighting the most powerful military in the world that completely surrounds it on land? China attacking its biggest individual trading partner (by teleporting soldiers onto the other side of the world somehow) and having anything to gain from destabilising the world economy? Wars aren’t carried out in the media, Trump won’t be stopped and Greenland won’t be defended with a new round of “Trump bad” articles in US media.
Probably, because if they didn’t, there’s no guarantee they wouldn’t be next.
The powerful ones simply wouldn’t be next. Weak ones might be, but they in particular won’t be able to do shit about Greenland.
The conflict, if it comes to it, will play out through less direct means.
The rest of the world needs to just embargo us at this point.
He’s become like the Red Queen from Alice in Wonderland. Everything requires a singular response. “Off with their heads!” It’s like he’s not smart enough or emotionally mature enough to consider another response, let along a more subtle response. It’s like he needs to prove to everyone he is a strongman by yelling at everyone within earshot that he is strong. Methinks he doth protest too much.
He’s not smart or emotionally mature enough. He literally brags about not growing up past age six.
I bet this will totally bring down grocery prices!..
The international cabal of chicken farmers is really worried.
At this point, it appears that the EU is the last bastion of liberal democracy still standing. The world should probably start to move to the Euro as reserve currency and the basis of trade.
Wonder how the politicians from Europe’s Colonial Imperialism Era (post-Napoleon to pre-WW1.) would feel Europe gaining back it’s status as world ruler after having it gone for only a century or so.
We’re vassal states, Europe is to America what Switzerland is to Europe: pretty and seemingly clean, but complicit still. If America collapsed, right wing populists would probably take over (as they are already with Meloni for instance, or that German dude that looks like a WoW zombie) and plunge us deeper into war, continuing the culture of murder and pillage that brought Europe its favourable position in the first place. You’d see some race wars (white people Vs everyone, of course), some islamophobic tendencies that end in the death of innocents, etc etc. Idk about you, but I’d rather not live in a continent that is a bitch when powerless and a murderous cunt when powerful, I’d rather live amongst righteous folk. 🤷
Where are the righteous folk though? I mean, who else is left standing? We got Canada and New Zealand but they don’t have enough of a population to really move the needle. The US is heading in the direction it is. Everything in South America is a target of the US so they would have to organize into a union to be enough of a deterrent. I just don’t see anyone else outside the EU being able to pull this off. If there is another alternative I’m on board.
The only reason Trump is doing this is to get the USA out of NATO for Putin. The reason he works for Putin is because Putin has some very compromising pictures and videos of Trump, involving children and possibly pee
At this point i honestly think there is no tape or anything compromising.
I think at best Putin promised him that he would get richer if he followed his lead. Trump is 100% stuck in an 80’s mentality of money = power = strength = respect. If Putin had any shit on Trump feels like he could have caused even more damage by releasing it the second Biden was sworn in, in 2021.
In a society without morals, money can buy you everything, including other people’s souls. How wrong is he?
Why does it have to be Putin? You really think they’re so organized and competent? Do you remember Gorbachev? 😅 The globalists in power in America have interests that align with Russia, and so do many leaders around the world. Capital, besides some old school American warhawks and Zionists, want a multipolar world, peace besides in some areas, a controlled America and even normalisation with Israel (even if they deserve to be sucked down into Hell, lol). I think American leaders despise their people and have no pride whilst authoritarian leaders, as evil as they might be, seem to have a bit more interest in their land’s success, even if it’s just due to their own vanity and history books being nice to them.
At this point any pee-involving evidence is minor compared to the rest.
But those countries that don’t agree with you taking over Greenland would be by definition in conflict with the United States. So I doubt there would be any trade happening anyway.
He really is a pudding brain.
I don’t think Trump realizes how petty the rest of the world can get and actively avoid American products for a looong time.
He has caused generational damage to America.
He does know Tariffs can go both ways, right? If you think things are expensive now, just wait until the rest of the world plays the reverse Uno card.
So every Americans access to capitalism’s goods is all a tool for trump to play his idiotic micropenis games with the world now. Capitalism wasnt great, but is this technically even capitalism anymore?
If someone would just please take him and Vance out, it would be greatly appreciated
If trump died right now, I have no doubt I’d be hearing cheers and car horns going apeshit in my city. We could expect most of us here to be shit faced for at least an evening. There would be spontaneous block parties. It would be the most cathartic thing in decades despite the uncertainty and turmoil that may come next.
Not where I live, but I enjoy celebrating quietly
I just worry if that did happen, that the people puppeteering Trump would be actively using that moment of celebration to push through some other Weekend at Burnies style scenario with Vance.
A valid concern. They’re all snakes.
Eyeliner boy is not as popular, Trump has been in the American mind since Home Alone at least. If they took him out, because MAGAs are manworshipping cultists, I think the whole movement would slow down a bit.
He’s already done that and as a Canadian I’ve not really noticed much difference.
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