Try them both for sure. I tried quobuz after tidal and overall preferred the experience except for new artist discovery - Tidal was much better in that regards. Since that was such an important part of my enjoyment, I switched back to Tidal. Both worked great with the WiiM. Good luck.

they all look and feel the same. all comes down to the content. do they have all your favourite artist? are there any cool playlists?

i wouldnt be worried about the podcasts, if you only listen to them on one device. its just an app.

I tried Deezer and tidal for a month each. They were both alright, however their offline download for bigger playlists straight up sucked, so that took some sanity out of me and I had to switch back to Spotify ultimately.

Please keep this in mind if you ever consider switching.

I had tidal for about a year and was happy with it. Sound quality is nice, app is clean, tidal connect is nice. Recommendations were not great and discovering new music I liked was a bit of a chore.

I have qobuz now (had it in the past too, for a while). App is more to my taste, very little clutter. Qobuz connect is now here and it works, so I can stream music over wifi to my stereo system. Finding new music is a lot better than spotify or tidal (imho) Recommendations are better, the magazine and editorial stuff is super nice and they have one simple feature that makes a world of difference to me: you can click on the record label of albums and see what else is on that label. So simple, but it’s by far my favourite way of finding new stuff.

I tried Qobuz almost a year ago because I was ditching Spotify and wanted to stay with a European service, but it had awful recommendations. There was no algorithm involved, it would recommend completely random tracks that had nothing to do with my music. It made finding new music extremely difficult. Too bad because I liked everything else about Qobuz.

I use Tidal now and love it. The recommendations are different from Spotify’s but just as good. No podcasts is actually a plus IMO and I haven’t noticed the AI slop that’s all over Spotify (although I’m sure there’s still some of it).

Anybody know how much each of these two pays the artists? Tidal has been trying to profile as a service where the artists get more money than at competitors, but that does not necessarily mean Qobuz is really different from it in that manner!

Anybody know something about this aspect?

Qobuz

use Soulseek instead

One more vote for Tidal. High quality and large catalog, I’ve been using it for years.

Yes, Tidal if you need reccomendation and personalized algorithms, Qobuz if not

I’ve bounced around. Liked Tidal but can’t support an American company these days. I’m currently on Qobuz and enjoy it. The UI isn’t amazing but it’s not bad. I really enjoy the playlists/essential listening features, I’ve fallen down a lot of interesting wormholes that way. They’re also curated by people not algorithms, so your personal recommendations might not be as on point as you’re used to but the general playlists have a wide enough selection that I’ve had a great time.

There’s a service called Soundiiz that helps you move favourites/playlists etc from one service to another relatively painfree, so honestly, maybe give each one of them a couple months and see what works best for you?

I am locked into a family plan with Spotify that I justify by thinking that we’re not actually family so we’re cheating them.

I see Quobuz also has a family plan but with the same proviso that you’re supposed to live at the same address. How strict do they check?

We have never had any problems on Spotify.

I’ve been testing out Qobuz recently since I’m in a similar ditching-Spotify place in my life. Honestly I think it’s a great alternative. Sound quality is great and it has the multi device sync/status like Spotify.

I don’t know what that feature is actually called but the feature where you can have a song playing in the app on your phone, open the app on a different device like your tablet, and it will show the “now playing” in the minimized player along with the name of your phone that it’s playing (and you can swap it to play immediately on the tablet now instead). That feature in Spotify was a big one for me. Love that Qobuz has it.

I’m still building my listening history so I can’t comment on how good the recommendations will be. But the suggestions I’ve gotten in the last few weeks were spot on.

Not sure what people are talking about with the app ui. It’s a good app. Maybe it was bad in the past and they have made improvements? But coming from Spotify I think you’d have no issues using it.

Give the free trial a shot.

Qobuz wouldn’t allow me to sign up with a proton alias. I also tried deezer but they wouldn’t stop sending spam. Out of the two I’d recommend deezer.

Qobuz because its not American