• peopleproblems@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Ok, good. I’m glad that happened. Because now my suspicion is more solid. Not that this happened but we have new information.

    They don’t give a flying fuck about your “papers.” I don’t recommend walking around with a birth certificate or social security card. Your passport is questionable too.

    Why? Because they will take them, and say you had none anyway. Suddenly you are no longer who you say you are to any things that need them.

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      8 days ago

      I live in NM. It’s going to all out war when ice comes here. There’s tons of natives that live here.

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        I wonder if they might not even try. When like 1/3 people are dark skinned and the vast majority of them are citizens it’s going to waste so much of their time. Until they drop the pretenses anyway and just start blatantly and deliberately deporting citizens.

        But at that point, to paraphrase trump. They’re gonna find out why abq has a neighborhood called the war zone.

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          I fully foresee them trying to “re-colonize new Mexico” by harassing all the browns and moving white people there

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      7 days ago

      Dude, this guy knew well before you did. He’s very likely not a trump voter. You’re thinking of Trump voters… They are creatures, not people. This guy is a person.

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      i can’t make sense of this comment in this context, which is to say a Native man sharing the story of his arrest, and your statement which suggests he deserved it?

      the leopards comments are moving from unhelpful to actively harmful, from my point of view. you’re participating in the further dehumanization of one of the most historically oppressed peoples in this country.

      edit typo

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        8 days ago

        Pretty sure that comment is about ICE and how they are doing all the things MAGA supporters said they wouldn’t do. And likely still believe they aren’t.

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        People have been saying to carry all your identifying papers around with you in case you get stopped.

        Others have correctly pointed out that ICE does not care about what papers you have with you and they will arrest you regardless.

        There’s your context.

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      Wow, really?
      Quotas were introduced in the Stalinist USSR at one point in the 1930s, I think. Before that, you had to prove that you were innocent to have a shot at escaping imprisonment. Before THAT, authorities had to prove you did something wrong (they almost always found something, though).
      Both of these early approaches were simply too inefficient to man the gulags and run the country into the ground, I guess.

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    I think it’s safe to say the literal best thing to do when confronted by ICE is to try and leave, they will just ignore any identification and it’s better to not be caught alone, have some people near you and work on cardio if you can; of course this doesn’t help much with the door-to-door shit, so having emergency+legal contacts is also very important

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    I encourage all Americans to arm themselves (and really humanity as a whole) and always have but I think Native Americans especially should arm themselves or face a possible repeat of history. Trump is threatening to Invade Greenland and Canada over resources and attack Venezuela to prop up the Petrodollar. There’s zero chance he’ll respect treaties with Native Tribes if there’s mining that can be done on the Rez

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      Yes because historically Native Americans have had success defending their land against violent imperialist invaders.

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        There aren’t any reservations in China. So… But in all seriousness if anyone is interested in the history of native conflicts with the US government, Blood Struggle is a pretty good starting point. Several tribes fought the US military to a standstill and occupy their ancestral lands (or at least a significant portion of them). Navajo Nation is larger than the Netherlands.

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      Miller wasn’t only talking about Greenland when he said “To control a territory, you have to be able to defend a territory".