I’m getting quite strained from the sentiment I’m gathering from people who possess a level of cynicism to where, they believe all Americans deserve what’s happening and been happening. I don’t agree with that.
There are 75 million Americans, who tried, really tried to get out there and prevent what was to come. We just didn’t expect to be outnumbered by two million more people. But I think it’s unfair to say that those 75 million americans who tried to prevent the floodgates from opening, deserve this. Because they don’t.
There are other countries out in the world right now, who have just as bad leadership if not worse. Should we just assume the people there deserve it? No. Because there are probably people who are likely against their corrupt leaders. America is no different in that field.
We will try again come mid-terms, provided there are mid-terms. Hopefully the 77 million americans who did in fact vote for trump, have gotten enough of a wake-up call, that maybe their poor judgment and poorer decision making wasn’t as good as they thought. Because it is they that have damned us to this mess and we know it, we’ve seen it.
But don’t get this idea in your head that every American endorse the idea that we like what we have.
it’s divisive propaganda. it’s meant to divide people.
ignore it.
anyone who spreads it is either a bot or a fool.
I’m getting quite strained from the sentiment I’m gathering from people who possess a level of cynicism to where, they believe all Americans deserve what’s happening and been happening. I don’t agree with that.
Listen bro, at least you had a chance to vote. We had our drug lord ex-president pardoned by Trump just because he’s right wing, and probably with the help of a bribe. Trump straight up said who should win in our elections like 2 days before our elections, and threatened the country if the wrong party won. Guess what happened. GUESS.
Forgive me for not really giving a fuck about the poor good guys that didn’t vote Trump, when he never should’ve made it back into the ballot in the first place. The american system just failed the whole world. AGAIN. Few people will have a positive sentiment of the US right now with all the shit that’s hitting the fan, all because you fuckers couldn’t prosecute or get rid of the most transparently criminal US president in history.
For what it’s worth, y’all share my hatred with the ABSOLUTE FUCKING RETARDS around here who were all “kamala is worse because Gaza, vote trump” even though they claimed to be left wing. If a leftist seriously typed that shit back then all over Lemmy, y’all need a fucking lobotomy, you damn retards.
The fact of the matter is it doesnt matter what we deserve. It matters what actually happens. Right now, it appears America is having a one-sided civil war.
I am Danish, and I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. I refuse to let borders decide loyalty. I know the vast majority of americans on this platform, stand fully behind our values.
I appreciate every single apology, and I welcome it, and I fully understand and realize that you had nothing to do with any of this lunacy. But I also urge you to be careful. Because the extent to which you disagree with your countrymen is extreme.
I am speaking as someone who saw this far away. I sold my investments in the US when he was elected in 2016. I know you are not stupid either. But I see you calling him a fascist, a rapist, a child molester… All of which may be true. But what will you do when he is standing at your door?
They are carrying weapons. They are deploying armed forces in the street. They are dismantling all the institutions you stand for before your eyes. They hate the weak, the colored, and those they consider less than them. They will soon begin to take away your ability to vote. Do you not see it? Have you woken up? Whatever rules and regulations you think keeps him in check are crumbling before your eyes.
You need to start considering your options under the second amendment. You need to fill your pantry. You need to build lasting relationships with people close to you that you can trust. Right now your bully is mostly targeting those he considers weak outside his borders. Where will he look next? Where will the Trump who replaces him look?
Between so many of the “wow, Americans aren’t doing anything” and “wow, is all Americans can think to do is shoot people” posts, and making light of mentions of protest or demonstration, all it’s doing is just shifting the blame to the individual and shrinking the goalposts to nothing. Yes, America created this, yes, Trump won the popular vote in the second term (ignoring any possible voter manipulation), and yes, voter turnout was the biggest it’s ever been. It’s clear people wanted Trump. But for the people that will listen, that will take action, all this kind of stuff is doing is crushing their spirit and driving them further into inaction.
It is their fault. Stop with the apologies. They all worked together for this. They all sat and gorged on the benefits of exploitation and greed.
Now they are ethe victims of themselves.
I reserve my disdain for my coworkers who didn’t see any point in voting.
My read on this is that since the end of the cold war, America has had a monopoly on decisionary power, and news media around the world has assigned responsibility for geopolitical events accordingly: whatever happens, wherever it happens, America has, at minimum, assented to it, and is therefore responsible for it. The first truly bizarre application of this reasoning that stood out to me was assigning blame for Russia’s invasion of Ukraine on NATO. Since Russia lost the cold war, it is relatively weaker than its western neighbors, propped up by the US, and somehow that turns its acts of aggression over its former territories into defensive measures. It’s a unipolar read of geopolitics, where only one dominant power exists at the global scale, and any local complications in the balance of power are simply ignored. The same applies to the US’s internal politics. The US decides, so the US is responsible. Never mind all the attacks on democracy, representativity, and citizens’ safety and security. In the case of Milei, Orban, Bolsonaro, Putin, etc., people are more willing to see citizens as victims of their failing democracies; with the US, there is a failure to distinguish between the country’s global power and its citizens’ individual power.
Add to that longstanding resentment over the US’s hegemony and you end up with a lot of people who have sincerely been looking forward to this shitshow. You’re just one more piece of tinder in the bonfire they’ve been waiting for their entire lives
My point being, you’re expecting too much of most people if you’re hoping for a compassionate, nuanced read on the situation.
The whole world is suffering because you all have been too dumb to vote… how many decades in a row? Maybe that’s just who you are.
“The cynicism behind faulting Germans in 1939 who didn’t even vote for Hitler is concerning”
Did all the German jews deserve to go into camps because they didn’t do enough to stop Hitler?
OP is not getting into camps, they are watching their neighbour go
And what makes you think OP isn’t one of the targeted peoples?
What about the Germans who were Jewish and had to hide in attics?
Every American who immigrated from a foreign country in search of employment because their foreign country’s government and society was completely screwed over by American interventionism is laughing and crying was they watch the rest of the world come to the same realization that the name of the game is who can suck Uncle Sam the fastest, and that almost every nation has been playing this game for 80+ years.
For a lot of people, this isn’t even new. The only difference is now the top donors, NATO, are being discarded just like what happened to SEATO.
I would bet cash money that if Trump invades Greenland, NATO or EU will do jack all about it.
I would even bet hat even after we elect a new president, we won’t leave Greenland without requiring a massive military outpost there.
Worse leadership in terms of being more corrupt and evil? Yeah. Worse leadership in terms of leadership? Hard to think of any examples.
Americans are getting treated like americans treat everyone else. All this whining about it is not endearing. I’m sorry the shoe is on the other foot for a change, but you are not the first or only people to get kicked, so stop acting like it.
This wave of fascism has been building for decades. If in all those decades not enough americans were able or willing to stop this then America, as a system, as a country, is broken.
The point is that Trump did not get to where he is just from those who voted for him. There is a country that over the years swerved right, with the left doing nothing about it because they were too busy fighting themselves instead of fascism. And a good third to half of the population not fucking caring about this
Don’t forget there is a legitimate conspiracy from BRIC countries to destabilize the rest of the world for their own gain, starting with the USA.
Germans living today are still being blamed for WWII, so I guess you better get used to it.
