• Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    Brainstorming here but you have to factor in that right wing media exists to manipulate these people. To specifically fix it, a major part is reverse engineering right wing media and crashing it.

    A) prevent chuck schumer from continuing to be in office. Fascist media needs a villain, wrestling needs a heel. remove the low hanging fruit and they start infighting because how could the new guy be responsible for old problems? The “deep state” mythology exists to explain why republican policies (tax cuts) don’t produce results (prosperity).

    B) make the new conservative fad to be off social media - camping or whatever it doesnt matter. Get them away from the echo chamber for five minutes and see if boredom without internet causes their brain cells to start working again. At the very least this would reduce the profitability of the media by reducing view counts.

    C) People in tennessee are so pilled they thought they could vote against mamdani in the New York Mayoral election. Guerrilla education would be a funny way to combat the stupidity of MAGA. Its speculated that Trump is obsessed with greenland because he thinks its huge due to map distortion on mercator map projections. A way to show how dumb this is indirectly would be to give out free globes.

    Edit: I should say it would be easier to win an election with somebody in office like Mamdani who has both charisma and good values. But since the question is specifically getting trumpers to not vote, the answers are what they are.

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      Its speculated that Trump is obsessed with greenland because he thinks its huge due to map distortion on mercator map projections. A way to show how dumb this is indirectly would be to give out free globes.

      Tech bros pulling Stephen Miller’s puppet strings want greenland’s minerals.

      Also just a side note, Greenland is roughly 3 times the size of texas. It’s not exactly “small”, even if mercator maps do make it look significantly larger than it is. (comparably to africa, lol.)

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        They could also fund mines there without attempting to turn it into a US territory. Imo if this was just about mines they would already have done it.

        My guess would be the tech bros also want to use it as some kind of utopian bioshock style project, which is the only remotely plausible explanation for pushing it so hard.

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      Could yell amsome insane shit about hin eating dogs and cats. I mean it worked once?

      It’s staggeringly impressive that alone didn’t tank his entire presidential hopes. Among the 1,000 other offenses to any sensible human.

      And if that was staggeringly impressive, even moreso is that was for his SECOND TERM

      The world is waiting for America to become a serious nation again. But we’re actually not waiting because we know that ship has sailed. You guys let J6 slide by ffs…

      Good luck convincing a single spineless American to do the right thing.

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    Tell them they should go and vote in Greenland to make its annexation official, because if they mail in their ballot it will be stolen. And Greenland is the only option to have a third Trump presidency.

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    Trumpists are believers in conspiracy theories.

    You need to pay attention to this fact first.

    Convince them that your candidate is against the New World Order (NWO) and Agenda 2030.

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      Instead, tell them he’s a WEF president who speaks at Davos. Then show him a picture of him at Davos in front of a WEF background.

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    You can’t reason someone out of something they didn’t reason in to. Bedsides, they’ve already drawn first blood in the civil war. Fuck 'em.

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    It’s been over a decade.

    These aren’t confused people anymore.

    They. Are. Traitors.

    They are traitors who will do anything, up to and including electing a felon rapist insurrectionist who regularly violates the Constitution and sends a masked unaccountable secret police force to harass and murder Americans, in order to get what they want.

    That’s not confusion. That’s malicious intent.

    If you want to know how to make traitors stop being traitors. If you want to know how to make fascists stop being fascists. Well, I’m not totally sure I wouldn’t get banned for the answer. I definitely would on Reddit.

    Those of us who passed our history classes have been trying for a decade to get people to help vote us in the opposite direction of this. That didn’t work. Now it’s happening and there’s no easy way out of this.

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        1. Buy a gun. Or two. Train. Help others buy and train. Many people just need that little push from someone that knows more about the process than them. It’s a whole hell of a lot more difficult to oppress people who are armed to the teeth. Just watched a video of armed protestors in Philadelphia. The cops show up, try to get them to stand down. They don’t. The cops end up leaving. There’s your proof.

        2. Hold conservatives in your life accountable however you see fit. If that means cutting them off, that means cutting them off.

        3. Fight misinformation wherever you see it by correcting it with facts. Even if it seems pointless. You aren’t commenting for the benefit of the piece of shit you’re trying to correct. You’re commenting for the other people that end up reading it and learning from it.

        4. Read the CIA’s “Simple Sabotage” handbook, which is available online. Do anything in it that you can reasonably do, ESPECIALLY if you work for the federal government.

        5. Support and protect your neighbors, assuming they aren’t conservatives. Do not aid or abet any conservative in any way, shape, or form. Do your due diligence and make sure any business you’re spending your money with doesn’t have conservative ties. Google the owner’s name and check their social media. Make sure they aren’t conservative.

        6. Vote. Every. Single. Time. In every election, no matter how small.

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      You can’t reason with Catholic and Jesuit followers, unfortunately. We need to oust any form of Catholicism from the world, but that would defeat the whole purpose of what’s happening right now.

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        I actually wouldn’t be surprised if Leo specifically endorsed a Democratic candidate, especially if Trump runs for a third term (assuming he even survives until late 2028). Remember, he’s from Chicago and he’s allegedly to the left of Francis, who had some choice words for American fascists.

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          Francis was a Jesuit, whereas Prevost is from a different order, which I think is under the Jesuits.

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    Just get more people voting. Study after study on US politics proves that if voting percentages were higher, the GOP would probably never be back in power.

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      There’s a reason they focus so much on removing voters from the rolls, removing voting locations, making it illegal to provide water to those waiting in line (because they only have a handful of locations after removing them all) and making it just generally harder to vote across the board.

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    Ask them to look at their credit card bills or grocery receipts from January 2024 and January 2026. Just compare. If they’re better off, super, vote however you want. If literally everything in their life is apples to apples more expensive in 2 years’ time, like double, let the numbers do the explaining.