I asked him “what color were the clouds back then?” and he said they were white. I asked him what happens if I take an orange light and light up something that’s white with it. He ignored me. He went on about how everyone in his age group remembers the Sun being orange, and by me questioning him, I’m calling him and all his peers liars and I’m stupid because I’m younger than him and vaccinated.

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    because I’m younger than him and vaccinated.

    Bruh your friend is a conspiracy theorist. There’s no arguing with him because he already thinks Bill Gates created the Corona virus to exterminate humans so the underground lizard men can retake the surface (actual quote from a conspiracy theorist I used to know, and claimed the same kinda batshit bullshit your friend is saying).

    Honestly? Your best bet is to just not engage with them when topics like that come up. Incredibly difficult (sometimes impossible) to get them to realize the fairy tales they’ve convinced themselves are real, aren’t actually.

    If it gets too much to handle, probably best to cut ties.

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      Your best bet is to just not engage with them when topics like that come up

      real soon it will include any topic

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      These people will believe batshit insane stuff like this but refuse to believe billionaires are running the world and destroying life for all of us. The disconnect is concerning.

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        See that’s another thing. He fully believes the illuminati are real. But he doesn’t think it’s the people that are obviously close to that truth in reality (Trump, Musk, Putin, Epstein, etc).

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            For some reason thats always how it is.

            I think it’s because the obvious answers aren’t interesting. A big thing for conspiracy theorists is that they are part of a group who knows the real story. It’s as much about feeling like they belong to something important and exciting as anything else.

            It’s like the people who believe the apocalypse is coming soon. Well if the apocalypse happened 1000 years from now that would be pretty soon (a geological blink of an eye) but it wouldn’t be anywhere near to falling within the lifespan of the believers. That doesn’t work! These people need to feel special, to feel important, to believe their life is meaningful for no other reason than to be alive when an important event happens.

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              Totally. Ive noticed a pattern with these kooks (much like fox news viewers) they almost always have no control over their life and very little money. So they turn to conspiracies and being a victim so to them their life situation makes sense.

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            Probably, I stopped listening after a while. But I do remember him being A Trump supporter for all the same reasons an edgy teen supported Trump in 2015. ‘But the Republicans were fighting against slavery’, like, yes bitch, group ideology changes over time. 🙄

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        Because that’s not a conspiracy theory.

        It’s real and backed by facts. Can’t feel smug with facts everyone knows I guess.

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    Yes. If the sun was orange, the light would be orange, and everything white would be orange.

    The fact that your friend believes the sun was replaced by a giant LED is a sign they should not be your friend anymore

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      It’s likely this isn’t the only conspiracy theory he believes in. Time for you to find better friends,.

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          No, there’s actual people like that. The guy I mentioned in my comment came into work one day, claiming that the moon makes its own light. I once asked him if he had heard of the Stargate series. He paused, looked me dead in the eye, and said, super seriously, “yes and Stargates are real.”

          There are people that honestly believe this shit. The only thing is now they have the internet to convince each other that it’s all real.

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            Has he written his congresspeople about the need to increase defense spending because of the threat of the Goa’uld?

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            Ok but hear me out. I get laughed at for this, but I do think the moon is pretty hollow. The Apollo astronauts are on record saying it rang like a bell when they landed on it.

            I dont think its that crazy that the moon is very cavernous and hollow compared to earth. Now, aliens dont live inside it I dont think, but thats another theory haha!

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              I actually like this example. All too often we hear a kernel of truth, “the moon rang like a bell”, without context or explanation and can just apply logic that that seems reasonable with things we understand without questioning the result

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              it wasn’t a “landing” they crashed their lander into the moon to measure seismic data. They basically did an orbital strike with a bus. It vibrated for a long time because there isn’t much to dampen the vibration when most of the surface is hard rock with no moisture.

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            The nature of reality is such that you can believe a very silly thing and have it impact your life in no meaningful way. People have been wrong about the nature of the universe for millennia and continued to get by. The oddball who believes in native moonlight and stargates isn’t going to benefit tangibly for being correct or suffer tangibly for his misbelief. In many cases - thanks to the proliferation of internet subcommunity echo-chambers - they may actually suffer (socially) for reconciling their beliefs with reality if they can’t bring their friends along for the ride.

            But, again, when they have extremely limited influence over their surroundings (this guy is not, presumably, running an astronomy lab or charged with funding improvements to municipal mass transit) their zany beliefs don’t really matter. Correctness doesn’t benefit them and incorrectness is more fun.

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            Well they are real, they used them in the series.

            They don’t make you teleport though, that’s just special effects.

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        No. I know people like this irl.

        Not the exact belief, but insane nonetheless. Usually they get all their news from fb and xitter. And theyre always smarter than scientists despite not finishing hs or college (not that one needs to do those things to be smart, but just saying as a rule…)

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      They didn’t replace the sun that would be impossible

      They replaced the sky which obviously uses LED imagine trying to run a panel of halogens that big

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    Who cares if it’s orange, white, blue, or whatever, or whether it’s an LED or not? It wouldn’t really make any difference if you knew. The whole question is pointless IMHO.

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    Don’t validate that kind of idiocy with an argument, just say “sure, you’re probably right.” and brush off the idea of even talking about it in general.

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    White LEDs are categorically not 30 year old tech, even if the rest of this theory wasn’t gunpowder caliber guano.

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    but got replaced with a white LED.

    time to find a new friend.

    there’s no point when someone believes that. move on.

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    But the sun is hot. You can feel the heat radiating from it.

    LEDs are not hot - that’s pretty much the main reason that they’re energy efficient, they don’t waste energy as heat.

    It’s not suddenly gotten colder, so if they did switch to LEDs, then they’re also artificially compensating for the heat. Which would completely defeat the purpose of switching (presumably from an incandescent bulb) to LEDs.

    Also, I’m super intrigued about who is supposedly behind this sun-bulb maintenance, and more interestingly, what could possibly be powering it

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      LEDs are not hot

      Someones never accidentally touched an LED array.

      I can guarantee you an LED array as big as the sun would generate enormous amounts of heat.and would need massive amounts of cooling.

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        That’s fair - my experience with handling them basically stops at individual LEDs in electronics and domestic LED lightbulbs.

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        Have you touched strong incandescent lights?

        Sure LED arrays are hot, but cooler than old lights

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    Things in atmosphere can color the light, but most likely they’re thinking about incandescent lighting on TV and at night.